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Trump The Hypocrite: Investing Overseas Fine For Him (Outsourcing)
Forbes Magazine ^ | Stuart Anderson

Posted on 03/10/2016 11:37:37 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo

Donald Trump’s appeal is said to be his straight talk. But when it comes to international trade, he sounds like a hypocrite, the classic “Do what I say, not what I do” politician.

While bashing companies for investing in foreign countries, Donald Trump’s own company has shown no inclination to invest and build only in America. In fact, a significant percentage of his company’s hotels and major real estate properties are located abroad. “Mr. Trump is either inexcusably hypocritical or inexcusably ignorant of economics,” according to Donald J. Boudreaux, a professor of economics at George Mason University. “There is zero economic difference between, say, a U.S. car company’s investments abroad in factories and Mr. Trump’s own investments abroad in hotels: both are meant to improve the bottom line of companies headquartered in the U.S. by taking advantage of profitable economic opportunities outside of the U.S.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: kinsman redeemer
His butler say otherwise.

So what.

141 posted on 03/10/2016 12:48:03 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Mollypitcher1; All

I get the distinct impression many people in this discussion object to any kind of association between overseas investment and overseas manufacturing —the latter involving outsourcing (while an argument could be made there is a procurement aspect to hotel construction which could well fall under “overseas outsourcing.” But that’s for another day) I guess the major question I have here on FR today with Trump business practice defenders is if they object not (so much) to cross-border hotel development but they do look negatively upon actual manufacturing factory or other design chain segments being sent out if the USA into foreign markets for a net loss of US jobs there. Correct? Could someone engage me and indicate if my understanding is correct on that point? Would you or one of the Trump followers speak to this point?


142 posted on 03/10/2016 12:48:39 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Things REALLY bad when the possible next Pres. comes on TV. And you must send kids out of the room.)
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To: XenaLee

So sad when a good mind goes to waste.
Political Campaign Contributions by Donald Trump (1999 to Present) - $898,300
DEMOCRAT: 37.80% REPUBLICAN: 62.20%

http://www.campaignmoney.com/biography/donald_trump.asp

These are Trump’s political contributions from 8/10 to 10/2012, not much money to Democrats is there...
I started in 2012 because of your 4 year comment:

KING FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 10/26/2012
HUCK PAC — 2,500 10/24/2012
USA SUPER PAC — 5,000 08/29/2012
CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP FUND — 100,000 08/19/2012
HOOSIERS FOR RICHARD MOURDOCK INC Republican 1,000 06/30/2012
NORTH CAROLINA REPUBLICAN PARTY Republican 500 06/01/2012
ALLEN WEST FOR CONGRESS Republican 500 05/08/2012
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE Republican 30,800 05/08/2012
ALLEN WEST FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,500 05/08/2012
PETE KING FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 03/23/2012
HELLER FOR SENATE Republican 2,500 02/03/2012
LINDA MCMAHON FOR SENATE 2012 INC Republican 2,500 12/09/2011
LINDA MCMAHON FOR SENATE 2012 INC Republican 2,500 12/09/2011
ALLEN WEST FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 05/20/2011
PETE KING FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 05/03/2011
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE Republican 30,800 04/06/2011
ED ROYCE FOR CONGRESS Republican 2,500 03/31/2011
CHRIS COX FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 11/02/2010
CHRIS GIBSON FOR CONGRESS Republican 500 10/21/2010
AMERICAN CROSSROADS — 50,000 10/06/2010
GRASSROOTS VICTORY FUND Democrat 10,000 09/20/2010
GILLIBRAND FOR SENATE Democrat 2,400 09/10/2010
GILLIBRAND FOR SENATE Democrat 2,400 09/10/2010
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE Republican 30,400 08/23/2010


143 posted on 03/10/2016 12:49:30 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: central_va

See previous post. and kindly respond in kind of you wish to do so


144 posted on 03/10/2016 12:49:49 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Things REALLY bad when the possible next Pres. comes on TV. And you must send kids out of the room.)
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To: XenaLee
You need to do some research, no one on this board is going to fall for this misinformation. The truth is out there and doubling down on lies impresses no one.

What the numbers show

We went to two authoritative databases of campaign finance data to examine Ferguson’s numbers: OpenSecrets.org, to find federal donations, and FollowtheMoney.org, for state-level donations.

Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he’s contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.

Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years.

The difference in donations is almost entirely captured in Trump’s recent giving. Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto).

145 posted on 03/10/2016 12:53:27 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: Harpotoo
Imagine a real businessman who knows how to lead and knows how to negotiate foe America running the country? Nah, we must elect career politicians for POTUS.
146 posted on 03/10/2016 12:53:52 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

He has not denied it. He has said the rules make it necessary to do this, let’s change the rules and bring business home.


147 posted on 03/10/2016 12:55:10 PM PST by niki
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Here is a more valid analogy: Trump has mentioned making companies like Ford who Hace manufacturing in Mexico pay a price. How is that different from him having manufacturing for his clothing lines in China and Mexico?


148 posted on 03/10/2016 12:56:41 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: central_va

takes one to know one.


149 posted on 03/10/2016 12:57:41 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: AuntB

Yep this is from 1988 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSIQZFHharA


150 posted on 03/10/2016 12:57:59 PM PST by niki
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To: Chgogal

So in the process of that international business, what are your feelings of an American based business which engaged in outsourcing in cheaper labor markets like Asia, or in contract manufacturing, and it would have provided jobs in Asia which would otherwise would be in USA. What X bout that....Thoughts?


151 posted on 03/10/2016 12:59:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Things REALLY bad when the possible next Pres. comes on TV. And you must send kids out of the room.)
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To: NoDRodee
Trump doesn’t even build properties over-seas or at home. He pays other people to build them, or other people that build the properties and pay Trump to place his name on the site. Then he takes all the credit for building them.

All the other hotels are built by the people whose names are on them. The Hilton Brothers are especially hard workers.

The man/woman who decides to build the building, arrange for the design & the funding, the supervision and the planning gets the credit. Admittedly he couldn't do it without the mason, the sheetrock guy etc but no way could they build it without him. Lots of sheetrock guys few guys with the vision, financial muscle, attention to detail and tenacity to build the buildings Trump has completed.

152 posted on 03/10/2016 12:59:44 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: Mollypitcher1
Obviously you can’t effectively research. Believing some Cruz lies are you? Trump will win and you can cry about it as I’m sure you will. Hope you have a nice supply of tissues.

Wisdom comes with age. You have long way to go.

Typical superiority complex displayed by leftists and, coincidentally, by most Trump camp followers here. As for believing lies, I can't count how many times I've seen the same lies about Cruz spewed, ad nauseam, here on "Free" Republic.

As for you playing that age card until it's frayed around the edges (much like the fraying that Trump supporters' logic exemplifies)....it's typical of your ilk....since you know absolutely nothing about me, about my life OR about my age. Figures.

153 posted on 03/10/2016 1:01:11 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“While bashing companies for investing in foreign countries, “

I don’t recall bashing companies for “investing” overseas. Basing companies for “taking US jobs overseas” you dumb@ss.


154 posted on 03/10/2016 1:02:38 PM PST by nikos1121 (Go Trump!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

155 posted on 03/10/2016 1:02:49 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: XenaLee

You wear your personal information in your writing for all to see.


156 posted on 03/10/2016 1:03:45 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

god, NOv 7 can’t come fast enough. We’ve learned that these so called experts are anything but that.

You see the interview, article whatever of Karl Rove saying that Trump loses to Hillary in the General?

Mr Smart Guy is making that prediction now.


157 posted on 03/10/2016 1:03:58 PM PST by nikos1121 (Go Trump!!!!!)
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To: odawg

lol


158 posted on 03/10/2016 1:04:28 PM PST by nikos1121 (Go Trump!!!!!)
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To: JayGalt

Cruz really believes the voters are stupid. That includes his own. The only people who are going to believe the bunk he’s having written about Trump, are his OWN people.

Not only does he insult, he insults in double digits and from both directions.

Somebody give grampa’s boy a pint of blood before he gets really desperate!


159 posted on 03/10/2016 1:04:40 PM PST by PrairieLady2 (If you Cruze, you looze. Bye, Bye Miss American Pie...)
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To: niki

Should he volunteer then and set a good example and ask the US Commerce Department to place a 25-30% tariff on all his finished goods upon US port customs clearance if goods’
origin was China, as he says he will pick up the phone and read such a command to fellow American execs operating with a global outsourcing footprint like Trump? He ••could•• volunteer today to prove he is not hypocritical.


160 posted on 03/10/2016 1:06:41 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Things REALLY bad when the possible next Pres. comes on TV. And you must send kids out of the room.)
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