Should Cruz win the nomination and then be elected, I will respect the office of the presidency as I have for the last 8 years, however, do not ask me to have respect for a person who himself does not respect the rule of law.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all what is due to them: tax to whom tax is due, toll to whom toll, fear to whom fear, respect to whom respect.
I’m sorry it hurts so many feelings that natural born citizen is an exclusionary term meaning one can only be a US citizen and nothing else, born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because one cannot possibly be anything else.
Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.
Obama told us he was born a British Subject.
Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?
Rubio and Cruz think they should get away with it because Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama got away with it.
Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009, happened with the complete cooperation of both parties.
They want the Constitution changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
Confuse people about the clear meaning of a three word phrase and voila, every anchor baby and Winston Churchill is eligible.
The bench was the reason the GOP went along with the fig leaf resolution for McCain that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama.
Jindal, Rubio, Haley and Cruz were all up and comers and the future of the party and ineligible.
The author of the citizenship clause in the 14th Amendment, Jacob Howard agrees with you.
http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html
Governor DePage of Maine is a US citizen who had two daughters born in Canada. He said both of them had to be naturalized before they could become US citizens.
Why doesn’t Cruz open his consular file, or whatever it’s called, and let us see for ourselves?
“Now please tell me, if the 14th gives citizenship simply based on birth on US soil, “
Common misunderstanding.
The 14th was to ensure citizens rights to ex-slaves.
The 14th has been twisted out of shape to accommodate everything from anchor babies to queer “rights.”
Cruz was, unquestionably, a natural-born Canadian.
But the US does not recognize (with very few exceptions) the effect of foreign laws on the citizenship status of US citizens.
Now, if I was a judge and you put before me the question, “is a person born to an alien father in a foreign land an NBC under Article II?”, I would say no. But what Canada had to say aboot it would not affect my decision.
“Now please tell me, if the 14th gives citizenship simply based on birth on US soil”
I doesn’t. It gives citizenship to SLAVES born on US soil, NOT illegal aliens jack pot babies.
“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”
Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
The Supreme Court has used two sources: British common law and enactments of the First Congress for understanding constitutional terms. Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.
Trump refuses to file his own lawsuit against Cruz because he KNOWS it would be a bogus case.
Of course, that hasn't stopped him from using the propaganda to get other chumps to spend THEIR money pursuing lawsuits against Cruz....while at the same time causing "doubts" on the campaign trail instead of duking it out with who has the best policy positions. Sad.......
Cruz, Rubio, and Obama.... None are natural born citizens.
The natural born clause has been under attack for quite some time now. The question we need to ask ourselves is why two of our top three choices are not natural born citizens and why so many freepers seem bound and determined to drive the final nail in the natural born clause.
If you vote for Cruz or Rubio you are voting for the destruction of one of the finest safeguards to the highest office in the land. Do not kid yourselves, the founders would be ashamed.
The Hart-Celler Act concerned itself with immigration quotas:
The Hart-Celler Act abolished the national origins quota system that had structured American immigration policy since the 1920s, replacing it with a preference system that focused on immigrants’ skills and family relationships with citizens or residents of the U.S. Numerical restrictions on visas were set at 170,000 per year, not including immediate relatives of U.S. citizens, nor “special immigrants” (including those born in “independent” nations in the Western hemisphere; former citizens; ministers; employees of the U.S. government abroad).
If you need to see what the law is in effect for citizenship at birth and naturalization see the U.S. Code, that codifies all of the current laws.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
I am sorry, but you are making a common legal mistake. You are quoting from statue and not code. You see, one law is passed and then another and then another, etc. Often subsequent laws which have nothing to do with the original law modify the original law. And often these modifications are very selective.
Taken all together, statues, laws, acts, treaties, etc are known as US Code. In essence, USC is the “final” version after all edits.
What you need to be looking at is US Code Title 8 and it’s subsection. To answer your specific question about the law’s definitions, you would look to Title 8 Section 1101 - Definitions. In subsection A part (23) “naturalization” is an act that takes place ONLY after birth.
Further, under Title 8 Section 1401 - Nationals and Citizens at Birth; Sen Cruz was born a US citizen regardless of his location and inherited his US Citizenship from his US Citizen mother when he was born. He has never needed to be naturalized as he has always been a US citizen. He was naturally born a citizen as the circumstances of his birth qualified him as a US citizen at birth. Had he been born on US soil, subsection A of Title 8 section 1401 would have likewise qualified him as a US citizen at birth.
there is no ‘birthright citizenship’ in the US.
being on the soil does not grant citizenship... UNLESS, the parents are residents of the state and subject to its jurisdiction (ie: they could be called for jury duty).
MEANING ... anchor babies ARE NOT citizens, no matter how much the left insists they are.
doing just 1 minute of reading with 7th grade comprehension skills will prove what i’m saying is accurate.
JUST READ THE AMENDMENT
Well, then. We certainly would not want you to be expected to respect someone elected as a CONSERVATIVE POTUS. We can resolve this by electing a half vast communist, etc., etc., etc. like Her Imperial Thighness and we can all disrespect her together from the new American gulag.
The Constitution is not modified by an act of Congress, that is the hurdle that so many can’t seem to grasp, and that’s sort of scary on a site such as this one. The term natural-born citizen clearly meant an individual under the sole jurisdiction of the United States. All the debate about parent or parents is due to jurisdiction, all the debate about born in or out of the country is due to jurisdiction. It seems to me that individuals born outside of the country can be natural-born citizens, if the country in which they were born does not make a citizenship claim on the basis of their being born there. It also seems to me that individuals born in this country to noncitizen parent or parents can be natural-born citizens if the country of their parent(s) does not make a citizenship claim on the basis of descent. This is the “doubt” that is referenced in Minor v. Happersett. Such doubt can be resolved in favor of a given candidate, or it can be resolved in a manner not in their favor.
I grieve **more** to have Republicans do the same in 2016.
This section of the Constitution is now dead.
There's nothing "naturalized" about owing your citizenship to the 14th Amendment. If you were a citizen by birth then you aren't naturalized.
This section you quote has nothing to do with who is and isn’t a citizen. It’s about how to count the immigration quotas assigned to each country.
It will come down to one of two things: either it will go to the Supreme Court, and they will rule on it, or, more likely, it will be judged by Congress in January when the joint session meets.
Court cases box score:
Cruz: 2
Birther Fever Swamp: 0