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Trump: The Military Would Not Refuse My Orders Even If They Consider Them Illegal
Mediaite ^ | March 3, 2016 | Josh Feldman

Posted on 03/04/2016 7:10:27 PM PST by EveningStar

At tonight's Fox News debate, Bret Baier confronted Donald Trump over former NSA/CIA Director Michael Hayden's recent remarks that the military would flat-out refuse to follow illegal orders of his...

The Donald insisted, "I'm a leader, I've always been a leader. I've never had any problem leading people. If I say do it, they're going to do it." ...

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bretbaier; joshfeldman; military; trump
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There is a short (2:36) video clip at the link that puts Trump's comments in context. It tells more than the article does.
1 posted on 03/04/2016 7:10:27 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

This was his opportunity to talk about the horrible ROE that our warriors have to work under.


2 posted on 03/04/2016 7:12:19 PM PST by Mercat
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To: EveningStar

Some would, others would not.


3 posted on 03/04/2016 7:14:24 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: EveningStar

Does anyone know if Trump has disavowed his statement yet? Err, I mean, softened his statement?


4 posted on 03/04/2016 7:14:44 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: EveningStar

Yes they would, or at least they’d better.


5 posted on 03/04/2016 7:15:48 PM PST by BlackAdderess ("They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ---Andy Warhol)
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To: EveningStar

I thought this was interesting, given that the military has already followed dubious orders from Obama.


6 posted on 03/04/2016 7:16:00 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: MrEdd
people can be replaced-especially people appointed/promoted by Barack Obama.
7 posted on 03/04/2016 7:16:17 PM PST by RC one
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To: EveningStar
In Section 16c(1)(c) of the UCMJ it provides:

Lawfulness. A general order or regulation is lawful unless it is contrary to the Constitution, the laws of the United States, or lawful superior orders or for some other reason is beyond the authority of the official issuing it.

And in Section 14c(2)(a)(i) of the same military code:

Inference of lawfulness. A order requiring the performance of a military duty or act may be inferred to be lawful and it is disobeyed at the peril of the subordinate. This inference does not apply to a patently illegal order, such as one that directs the commission of a crime.

8 posted on 03/04/2016 7:16:51 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo ( MSM: Rig primary coverage for weakest candidate: McCain/Romney/Trump. Then destroy, post-convention)
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To: EveningStar

Where were all these threats of disobedience with Obama? Guess they don’t want to look like they’re bucking the guy they’re actually afraid of.


9 posted on 03/04/2016 7:17:24 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: EveningStar

The link said “Product is Unavailable”...


10 posted on 03/04/2016 7:17:43 PM PST by JBW1949
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To: jeffersondem; EveningStar
Yes, he has clarified his statement.

Yes, we have seen this posted before.

Yes, we have seen tons of comments to those posts.

Yes, I understand your point of view.

Yes, you should listen to the clarification.

Yes, you should stop paying attention to those utterly ridiculous "debates"

11 posted on 03/04/2016 7:19:17 PM PST by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: jeffersondem

In context, there would be no reason to.

On the field of battle, we should be blowing up buildings with artillery fire or air strikes if we are taking fire from them, or is we have identified enemy personnel sheltering within them. Civilian collateral damage lies at the feet of Enemies trying to use them as human shields.

Absolutely we now have hard leftists among our troops that would betray the men they serve with and declare an artillery assault a war crime.

That wouldn’t make it so.


12 posted on 03/04/2016 7:19:48 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: jeffersondem

Trump has backed off his statement.


13 posted on 03/04/2016 7:20:16 PM PST by calisurfer
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Other than Obama’s Executive Order banning waterboarding, what are the laws pertaining to interrogation and information gathering, including so-called torture?


14 posted on 03/04/2016 7:20:29 PM PST by JBW1949
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To: JBW1949

Maybe you should keep trying. I got it to play for me again.


15 posted on 03/04/2016 7:20:49 PM PST by EveningStar (It's a cult.)
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To: EveningStar

you tell the enemy anything that you want them to think....like pig blood on your bullets.


16 posted on 03/04/2016 7:21:12 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: Mercat

This was his opportunity to talk about the horrible ROE that our warriors have to work under.


That’s right. He missed a good opportunity.


17 posted on 03/04/2016 7:21:22 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: EveningStar

By the same token, the bureaucracy has the same obligation to not violate the law.


18 posted on 03/04/2016 7:22:56 PM PST by depressed in 06 (If you like your part-time job, you can keep your part-time job. Vote Bolshecrat.)
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To: EveningStar

I will...Thanks...


19 posted on 03/04/2016 7:25:33 PM PST by JBW1949
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To: jeffersondem

Gee I guess you consider Harry Truman a war criminal. Is that correct?


20 posted on 03/04/2016 7:25:38 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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