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Former CIA Chief Says Military Could Defy Donald Trump's Orders
WSJ ^ | Feb 27, 2016 | Damian Paletta

Posted on 02/27/2016 7:16:59 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Former CIA Chief Says Military Could Defy Donald Trump’s Orders

By Damian Paletta

Feb 27, 2016 4:53 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Retired Gen. Michael Hayden, who recently led the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency, said the U.S. military would likely refuse to follow certain orders from Donald Trump if he is elected to the White House in November and follows through on campaign promises.

"I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that Candidate Trump expressed during the campaign," Gen. Hayden said during an interview will Bill Maher on Friday.

Mr. Trump, the frontrunner in the GOP primary, has vowed to use torture techniques against suspected terrorists if he wins the White House, going beyond waterboarding and doing things he described as a "hell of a lot worse."

He has also suggested he would order U.S. forces to kill the family members of terrorists, a charge that some have alleged would be in violation of the Geneva Convention.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; antitrump; billmaher; election2016; hayden; michaelhayden; newyork; nsa; trump
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To: mkjessup
"Where was Hayden and his fellow officers when that Kenyan Usurper was showing his treasonous colors, huh?"

You don't get that green government check if you don't serve the Usurper. Protect and defend the Constitution? These traitors should all hang from trees.

81 posted on 02/27/2016 8:08:46 PM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: HarborSentry

“The military, the CIA, and any part of the government, and anyone we hire or deal with, are now restricted from using any techniques not in the U.S. Army interrogation manual.”

Then the commander in Chief, head of the executive branch can put it in the manual. No law needed. Look at what Obama did with homos, and with women in combat units. Pen and a phone bit@hes.


82 posted on 02/27/2016 8:10:37 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble mined asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Godebert
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83 posted on 02/27/2016 8:12:43 PM PST by mkjessup (Say Ted? Trump has Sarah Palin, YOU have (*snicker*) Glenn Beck. How's that workin' out for you?)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Yes, and as someone else (maybe you?) said, Congress can change what is or isn’t legal. And if Obama’s invaders start chaos here a POTUS can use martial law also, if the need is there. With a POTUS who would back up the CIA rather than stab the whole system in the back, things could be a lot different than they are now. But I think a lot would depend on whether Trump would be willing to clean the CIA and military house, as others have also mentioned. There is one whole side of the CIA that engages in treason against the USA. Will Trump get rid of them? Same thing with NSA. Will Trump excise the stuff that wages war against the American people and only keep the stuff that is necessary to protect us?

It’s an important question. I remember thinking under GW the Patriot Act was necessary - mostly because I thought that GW would not use these powers against the US public. And as far as I know, he didn’t. But having the PERMISSION to use them against even law-abiding US citizens was a bad, bad, bad thing to have in place for a lawless foreign enemy combatant like Obama. So now what would Trump do? Would he seek to gather even more power for the POTUS, thinking he would use it benevolently? Or would he try to get things back to a lawful balance?


84 posted on 02/27/2016 8:14:08 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oh brother!

Like the military rolled over for Obama for 7 years, but they are going to dig in against Trump?

And this guy Hayden was in charge of the CIA and NSA.

I see he is going to be on Bill Maher’s show soon.

What a loser.


85 posted on 02/27/2016 8:14:37 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: HarborSentry

If Trump is elected he should direct his Justice Dept to investigate Haydens illegal domestic spying at the NSA and his bald faced lie to congress.


86 posted on 02/27/2016 8:15:26 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble mined asses overthrown,,,")
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To: going hot

I think Hayden gave Plame the ‘fake’ spy cover.


87 posted on 02/27/2016 8:16:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: CA Conservative

In spite of your screen name, that comment makes you look like something other than a conservative.

Anti-American, perhaps?


88 posted on 02/27/2016 8:16:41 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: catnipman

Has DT been asked about what he will do with the LGBT orders? Just wondering.


89 posted on 02/27/2016 8:18:28 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The so called “Geneva Convention” has got to go. The only country that follows that dumbass commie crap is the U.S. and it has caused the deaths of a lot of American military personnel. If you want to win and end wars, get rid of the dumbass, moronic rules about fighting them. JMO.


90 posted on 02/27/2016 8:20:14 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The Supreme Court is a joke being played on the American people.)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree he should find a way, but I don’t think an executive order would be necessary.

This law was added to a bill run by a GOP congress. The next GOP congress can write another one. They’ll do it when it’s needed. Enough Democrats will go along when given the right incentive. Democrats went along with waterboarding before, and they can go along with it again.

It doesn’t have to be waterboarding. They can find another method, or they can just call it something else.


91 posted on 02/27/2016 8:22:29 PM PST by HarborSentry
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To: CA Conservative

President Trump will send this un-American Muslim-loving ex-CIA chief down to Gitmo with his pals. Who’s gonna stop him?


92 posted on 02/27/2016 8:22:50 PM PST by RonnG
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The Geneva Convention specifies that uniformed combatants are subject and non-uniformed are excepted from any rules. They could and should be shot on sight, but nothing is off limits!


93 posted on 02/27/2016 8:23:10 PM PST by WVKayaker (What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate -D.Trump)
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To: manc

Wondering if anyone knows DT’s policy regarding homosexuals and women in combat?

Reports of sexual assault at the three U.S. service academies jumped 55 percent in academic year 2014-2015 while sexual harassment complaints also rose, according to a new Defense Department report.

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/01/08/reports-sexual-assaults-spike-military-academies/78496948/


94 posted on 02/27/2016 8:23:33 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

oh and that is with over the top anti sexual assault brain washing that obviously doesn’t work.


95 posted on 02/27/2016 8:25:26 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Retired Gen. Michael Hayden, who recently led the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency, said the U.S. military would likely refuse to follow certain orders from Donald Trump if he is elected to the White House in November and follows through on campaign promises.

Mikey? Do we need volunteers?

96 posted on 02/27/2016 8:30:23 PM PST by Stentor (Oh Teddy Cruz, Canadian that you be. Oh Teddy Cruz, we stand on guard for thee.)
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To: WVKayaker

Somebody needs to tell that to the morons on Capitol Hill, their shyster “lawyers” and their pedophile “judges”. Congress’ handcuffs need to be removed from the U.S. military if we are ever going to fight to win again.


97 posted on 02/27/2016 8:30:34 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The Supreme Court is a joke being played on the American people.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Blowtorches & pliers.
The headshoot the subhuman, murderous jihadi filth.


98 posted on 02/27/2016 8:31:57 PM PST by Carriage Hill
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To: TomasUSMC
100%
99 posted on 02/27/2016 8:32:42 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: gaijin

100 posted on 02/27/2016 8:36:09 PM PST by Carriage Hill
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