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My Life Under The Affordable Care Act or My OBAMACARE DISASTER [Vanity]
The Democrats | 02-24-2016 | Red Badger

Posted on 02/24/2016 12:38:16 PM PST by Red Badger

Okay, I've posted very few vanities during my time on FR, but this I believe is important for all FReepers and their relatives, who may be in the same situation.

I signed up for health insurance as required under The Affordable Care Act, using the Healthcare.gov website in November of 2014. Up until that time, my employer provided my family health insurance at no cost to me, but because of the new law was unable to continue doing so for financial reasons.

At that time, the Healthcare.gov website, after having entered my base salary numbers and my wife as sole dependent, informed me that I was eligible for a $1002 Per Month Advance Premium Tax Credit (APTC) as the 'subsidy' is called officially.

My part of the premium to my insurance company, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, was $532 per month.

The year 2015 was a good one for my employer, and I worked a lot of overtime, evenings, Saturdays and even Sundays sometimes. Then, at the end of the year I received a large bonus for all my efforts and good work.

Now, 2016 rolls around and I get my W-2 and received my form 1095-A from the Healthcare Marketplace stating all the money paid by the government to my insurance company and what premiums were paid in total.

I have no investments, other than my 401k Plan, and no rental property or any pensions or such. My wife doesn't work and my only income is from my job.

I get the IRS 1040A and start to fill it out, expecting to pay some extra taxes, since the bonus would have thrown the bi-weekly tax schedules used to determine your Income Taxes during the year a little off.

Having had health insurance all year I did not expect to have to pay any more than that.

BUT, as I continued to fill out the 1040A, and subsequently the Form 8962 that you use to report the APTC on your tax return, I was in for the biggest shock of my entire life.

Filling out the 8962 form, I discovered that I was no longer eligible for the APTC because I had made too much money during the year! According to the form, I had made more than 4X the Federal Government's Poverty Level and therefore would not be able to claim the APTC on my 1040A tax return.

Not only that, but I would read that as a result of that, NOW I WOULD HAVE TO REPAY THE ENTIRE YEAR'S APTC THAT THEY HAD GIVEN TO BC/BS in my name!

That amounts to $12,024.00! Yes, you read that right, OVER TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!

Needless to say, I was, and still am in shock! My wife is hysterical. She's afraid we'll lose the house and be out in prison!

We would have been BETTER OFF NOT HAVING ANY INSURANCE AT ALL for 2015!

The 'FINE', or 'MY FAIR SHARE' as they so ridiculously refer to it in the tax instructions, would have been less than $2000.

So, if anyone asks me what I think about OBAMACARE, I will unequivocally tell them in no uncertain terms that it is the worst disaster ever created for a working man in the middle class.......................................................End of rant, and my apologies to Jim Robinson and the Mods for my vanity.............................


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 8962; aptc; fairshare; mandate; mandatetax; obamacare; taxes; taxmandate
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1 posted on 02/24/2016 12:38:16 PM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
That amounts to $12,024.00! Yes, you read that right, OVER TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS! ======================================================
You should be honored to contribute to others. /s
2 posted on 02/24/2016 12:41:25 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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3 posted on 02/24/2016 12:41:25 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Red Badger

BTTT


4 posted on 02/24/2016 12:42:18 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Make America Grate Again!)
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To: Red Badger

Join a church (if you do not already belong) and Join Christian HealthCare (or another Obamacare exempt organization) for $450.00 per month (family of 3-5) (additional $30.00 per month for unlimited benefits).

Good luck!


5 posted on 02/24/2016 12:42:34 PM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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Yep, this how the oppressive workimg schmucks pay their “share” to the deserving parasites of all stripes, who will also get such things as rebates for being parasites.


6 posted on 02/24/2016 12:44:28 PM PST by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Wow! Obama will be the horrendous gift that just keeps on giving, until and unless that abomination is repealed. But you have nobody to blame but your fellow citizens who elected him. Twice. The mad dog kept saying what he wanted to do, and they kept right on voting for him.

But the whole point of this exercise, of course, is to hurt people so badly that they demand socialized, single-payer medicine.


7 posted on 02/24/2016 12:44:40 PM PST by afsnco
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Maybe you can get a Obama MHA refinance because of hardship and keep the house.
8 posted on 02/24/2016 12:46:18 PM PST by CJ Wolf ( !)
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I'm so sorry that you and your wife are living this obamacare horror.

We don't live in our Father's America anymore.

9 posted on 02/24/2016 12:46:51 PM PST by PROCON
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Folks, if you're reading this, you know what needs to happen.
If you can, please support the forum at this time. Thank you.

10 posted on 02/24/2016 12:48:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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11 posted on 02/24/2016 12:48:57 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: stocksthatgoup
The $#*+ is about to hit the fan. A lot of us who work for corporate America have or, by March 31, will receive a package from our HR Departments which we must sign and return stating that we understand that our current health coverage is an elective benefit on the part of the company which be ended at anytime and replaced with an additional allowance (at the company's discretion) to buy alternative coverage on the (government run) marketplace.

Thank all those jag-offs who voted for ObaMao.

12 posted on 02/24/2016 12:49:53 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Red Badger

Question. Just how much extra, overtime and bonuses, did you earn? How did that compare to the $12k you got smacked with?


13 posted on 02/24/2016 12:50:43 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Red Badger
Always amazes me how government extends its tentacles. If you and I did something like this in the course of regular business, at best we'd be tarred and feathered by our customers, and at worst, we'd be looking at jailtime.

I'd find a good tax attorney. Not the local H&R Block popup office. Would be worth a couple of hundred bucks for a consultation.

There are still ways to hide 2015 income, for instance with an IRA (until April 15th). You still need to find some money for the IRA, but at least you get to keep it for yourself instead of handing it over to Uncle Sam.

Good luck.

14 posted on 02/24/2016 12:51:30 PM PST by wbill
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Obamacare was never about your healthcare, but destroying you.


15 posted on 02/24/2016 12:51:41 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Red Badger

Obama is an incompetent liar - on every possible subject. Everything about Obamacare was and is a lie. I was a US Army combat infantryman for several years fighting our enemies overseas and left the service to spend more time with my family. Since I’ve been out, my health insurance (Blue Cross) has been cancelled twice, I have no idea who my doctor is now, and my premiums in three years have gone from $450 per month to over $1200 per month (family of four).

No one should even gives this liar the time of day. Shame on all those who voted for such a godless, unqualified, juvenile delinquent to our highest elected office. Mark my words, Obama will go down in history as the worst, most corrupt US President of all time.


16 posted on 02/24/2016 12:51:55 PM PST by Lions Gate
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The first year I got a quote of $8k for the bronze plan. I would have to pay $10,000 out of pocket before any -insurance- kicked in. So, $18,000. If I got sick toward the end of the year and did not pay my deductible then the whole thing would start over the next year.

A dentist friend decided to pay his fair share. He is wealthy and got insurance for social reasons. He suddenly needed hospitalization. He had a husband and wife policy. He met his deductible only to discover that she also had to meet hers for the insurance to pay. This year he went commando, like me.


17 posted on 02/24/2016 12:52:03 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: DugwayDuke

It effectively negates all the overtime and bonus for the year, so you might as well say that on those weekend days and nights I was working for the government..................


18 posted on 02/24/2016 12:55:20 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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It would come out basically the same, I believe.

If you had, after the first two months of 2015, gone to the site and adjusted your income upwards, your APTC would have been lowered, and your premium would have jumped way up.

You’d have paid the money anyway, I think.

You would just have been paying a much higher premium every month with a corrected income number.


19 posted on 02/24/2016 12:56:34 PM PST by ltc8k6
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I was afraid that would be the case. My sympathies.
So typical of liberal polices. You try to work and get ahead and they take it from you.


20 posted on 02/24/2016 12:59:50 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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