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A Navy SEAL and an Army Ranger explain the difference between these two elite tiers
Business Insider ^ | February 22, 2016 | Jack Murphy and Brandon Webb

Posted on 02/22/2016 7:48:10 PM PST by EveningStar

The internet has no shortage of basement-dwelling commandos beating at their keyboards like chimpanzees as they forcefully insist upon one incorrect factoid or another regarding Special Operations units. All SEALs are considered Tier One, right?

No. Rangers pull security for Delta, correct? Time to throw away that scratched-up "Black Hawk Down" DVD, hero.

Since the Internet stupidity goes on and on, two of the SOFREP staff decided to team up and write a definitive article about the differences between SEALs and Rangers. This article was co-written by Brandon Webb, who served in SEAL Team Three, and Jack Murphy, who served in 3rd Ranger Battalion.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 3rdrangerbattalion; army; armyrangers; brandonwebb; jackmurphy; military; navy; navyseals; rangers; seals; sealteamthree; sofrep; specialoperations
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1 posted on 02/22/2016 7:48:10 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

The internet has no shortage of basement-dwelling commandos beating at their keyboards like chimpanzees as they forcefully insist upon one incorrect factoid or another regarding Special Operations units. All SEALs are considered Tier One, right?

No. Rangers pull security for Delta, correct? Time to throw away that scratched-up “Black Hawk Down” DVD, hero.

Since the Internet stupidity goes on and on, two of the SOFREP staff decided to team up and write a definitive article about the differences between SEALs and Rangers. This article was co-written by Brandon Webb, who served in SEAL Team Three, and Jack Murphy, who served in 3rd Ranger Battalion.


2 posted on 02/22/2016 7:51:29 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Get Ready)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping


3 posted on 02/22/2016 8:01:05 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling of America's Party for President the only person to restore the Republic)
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To: EveningStar

And then there’s the Marines’ Force Recon.


4 posted on 02/22/2016 8:14:26 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t know a lot about any of them. I think the Rangers are more in number and that would indicate they would be used more like regular troops but in more audacious circumstances.

The Seals seem to be the ones for smaller really high value operations.

I don’t personally know this but have read it a couple of time. The Air Force Para-rescue are the most highly trained of all of our special forces.


5 posted on 02/22/2016 8:19:26 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: NTHockey

One of my DI’s was Force Recon. The dude never ceased to amaze. He trained us to make sure we would survive on the battle field. God bless Sgt. Barialla.


6 posted on 02/22/2016 8:21:31 PM PST by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: EveningStar

If bad language offends you don’t check this out.

How to be an Operator.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yf0R7n02owM


7 posted on 02/22/2016 8:23:10 PM PST by The Toll
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To: EveningStar; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


8 posted on 02/22/2016 8:23:58 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

This is a discussion usually carried on by non-SEALS or non-Rangers. They are all bad asses with different missions. SEALs don’t fight Rangers or vis-versa so it’s a non starter. They work together to kill our enemies.

If only our political leaders understood their real worth and power, ISIS and any other terrorist organization would be done if they just let them do their job. Instead, politicians with political goals hamstring the greatest, most well trained fighting force to achieve “politically correct” victories.

Freedom and liberty is swinging in the balance right now, and these guys have skills that could save us or sink us. Time will tell if honor or blind obedience will win out.


9 posted on 02/22/2016 9:11:59 PM PST by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: EveningStar

Save


10 posted on 02/22/2016 9:20:03 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: EveningStar

The one thing that Rangers and SEALs have in common is that they both are almost good enough to be Marines.

Heh.

Semper Fi!


11 posted on 02/22/2016 9:56:40 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: EveningStar

Thanks for the link. Both Seals and Rangers are insanely brave.


12 posted on 02/22/2016 10:06:15 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: The Toll

“Operator” That always makes me snicker. My mom was an operator too. Bet she has some stories.


13 posted on 02/22/2016 10:08:05 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Grimmy
"almost good enough to be Marines"

180,000 bad ass men.

I've seen Marines do amazing things in my years in the Navy. The discipline is unmatched. Man for man, they shoot better than any other military force in the world.

And, they are the type of men who clean out Falluja or Beruit or some other hell hole where nobody else wants to go.

If the US ever sets foot in Mosul again, it will be under the USMC banner.

14 posted on 02/22/2016 10:35:35 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner

Marines, Seabees cousins.

Seabees, by the way, the least known of them all.


15 posted on 02/22/2016 11:22:21 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: Grimmy
True...true, but who they call when their butts are caught between the rock and the hard place? That's right, The USAF ParaRescue.

'Air Force Pararescue is the only United States Department of Defense elite combat force specifically organized, trained, equipped, and postured to conduct full spectrum personnel recovery to include both conventional and unconventional combat rescue operations. Pararescue is the nation’s force of choice to execute the most perilous, demanding, and extreme rescue missions anytime, anywhere across the globe.' https://www.pararescue.com/

16 posted on 02/23/2016 12:56:56 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: EveningStar

Any Officer Rangers in the MI Corps or Signal Corps or any other support Corps is only as good as his CDR. That usually amounts to Enlisted up to Senior NCO’s (non Rangers) being worth buckets of urine and Ranger Commanders being tossed like spit buckets if the snow is too deep in the Battalion
parking lot. Keep all officer rangers in the 75th or don’t train them.


17 posted on 02/23/2016 1:28:08 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: fatez

way too many stories I could tell - talking with them, seeing them in training and reading about their exploits. The old saying “You don’t have to be crazy to be here, but it sure helps.” had to be about Force Recon.

Semper fi
Do or die


18 posted on 02/23/2016 3:43:52 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

“Send Me” by Max Impact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUTxeg1oHNE


19 posted on 02/23/2016 8:58:59 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: EveningStar

The Coast Guard Special Forces, based out of Omaha, would kick their ass.


20 posted on 02/23/2016 9:12:33 AM PST by laotzu
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