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Trump, Lies, and Bankruptcy
JTF News ^ | February 16, 2016 | Shlomo

Posted on 02/19/2016 9:18:46 PM PST by TBP

Donald Trump is a habitual liar, and the thing about habitual liars is that they lie habitually.

In a testy exchange with former Florida governor Jeb Bush, Trump insisted that he’d never gone bankrupt, and that claims to the contrary are a lie. That’s the Trump magic right there: Lying about your business history is one thing, lying that your critics are lying about it is another.

Trump has a peculiar way of speaking about bankruptcy: He has a deep aversion to the word itself. He speaks of “putting a company into a chapter” without ever answering the implicit question: “Chapter of what? Moby-Dick?” The answer, of course, is the U.S. Bankruptcy Code, to which Trump has taken recourse at least four times over the course of his business career. The chapter in question is the famous Chapter 11, which applies to business bankruptcies. Trump proudly insists that he never has had recourse to Chapter 13, the personal bankruptcy code. This is his apparent justification for saying that he’s never been bankrupt. But of course one of the purposes of Chapter 11 bankruptcy is to keep men such as Donald Trump out of Chapter 13 bankruptcy.

Trump’s first bankruptcy was in 1991 after he borrowed a stupidly irresponsible amount of money to finance that monument to excruciatingly bad taste known as the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. Trump is such a good manager that the casino’s slot machines began failing during its first week of business. Never one to let reality stand in the way of his confidence, Trump had financed the $1 billion project largely with junk bonds, which meant very high interest payments. Trump did not make enough money to meet his interest payment and so was forced into bankruptcy. His ownership of the casino was diluted, and he ended up having to give back 500 slot machines to the company that had provided them.

Trump himself was on the hook for nearly $1 billion in the deal, according to the New York Times, a sum that exceeded his net worth. He was forced to sell a fair amount of his personal property, including a yacht, as well as the failing air-shuttle service he’d been attempting to launch for some time. As Boston bankruptcy attorney Ted Connolly put it, Trump used the bankruptcy proceedings to negotiate away his personal liabilities while leaving the business saddled with debt. Unsurprisingly, the casino endured further financial problems, including bankruptcy. Trump’s ownership stake was diluted steadily, and he eventually was removed from the board. By the time of the casino’s most recent bankruptcy — which is to say, the bankruptcy it currently operates in — Trump could plausibly say that it wasn’t really his business any more, in spite of the fact that his name and face are all over it.

Trump’s second bankruptcy came with his acquisition of New York City’s Plaza Hotel. The great dealmaker did essentially the same thing with the Plaza that he had done with the Taj Mahal: He borrowed too much money, at rates he could not afford. And in much the same way that he has contemplated putting his abortion-loving sister on the Supreme Court, he made his then-wife, Ivana, president of the Plaza. Once again, Trump was unable to make his debt-service payments. Once again, he lost much of his ownership stake — 49 percent went to Citibank — and, once again, he found himself having to run for the doors as parties with deeper pockets and more managerial acumen took over to clean up his mess. In the case of the Plaza, that was CDL Hotels International, of Singapore, and Prince Walid bin Talal, of Saudi Arabia. The Saudi prince laments that he was twice forced to “bail out” Donald Trump, whom he describes as a “disgrace to the United States.”

The Saudi prince laments that he was twice forced to ‘bail out’ Donald Trump, whom he describes as a ‘disgrace to the United States.’

In 2004, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, a holding company for various Trump properties including the Taj Mahal and a riverboat-gambling company in Gary, Ind., went into bankruptcy, having acquired $1.8 billion in debt while raising only $130 million through an initial public stock offering. Same story: Trump had borrowed too much money, at a rate he could not afford (15 percent, in fact, which lets you know how credit-worthy the market deems Trump to be), and once again he was obliged to give up most of his ownership stake.

Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts was reorganized as Trump Entertainment Resorts . . . which promptly went bankrupt, filing for Chapter 11 protection in 2009. (That’s right: Trump, who wants to be president of these United States, was in bankruptcy that recently.) Too much debt at an interest rate that he couldn’t afford to pay? Check. Loss of ownership? Check. Trump and his daughter, Ivanka, both resigned from the board just before the bankruptcy filing, inviting unkind rodential-nautical metaphors.

It is no wonder that he’s had his greatest success renting his name to Macy’s and pretending to run a business on television rather than actually running a business.

So, those are the bankruptcies about which Donald Trump is lying. Trump also is lying about self-funding his campaign: Like any other politician, most of his money comes from donors. That famous fund-raising for veterans? The money is going into Trump’s personal foundation.

Trump has repeatedly failed his business partners and lied about it. He has lied about self-funding his campaign. He has lied to his wives and his family. Given that he received a low-risk draft status because of a health condition that he does not have, he almost certainly lied to the military he seeks to command.

The thing about habitual liars is, they lie habitually.

If you’re voting for Trump because you think he’s a straight shooter, you’re a bigger sucker than those chumps losing money on both sides of the table in Atlantic City.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; cutandpastebots; gangof14; lies; propagandadujour; sidebarspam; tdscoffeclutch; tdsnightshift; tedspacificpartners; trump; usualsuspect; willthemudstick
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To: PJBankard

That what makes his corporate bankruptcies so dubious. He has the personal wealth to pay off his financial obligations. Instead he keeps his fortune and allows his companies to default ie, steal from his creditors. An honorable man pays his debts.


21 posted on 02/19/2016 9:48:18 PM PST by Techjock
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To: doc1019
Stand by for the Trump apologists ...

It's like a religious cult, isn't it?

22 posted on 02/19/2016 9:50:45 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: TBP

23 posted on 02/19/2016 9:53:33 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: TTFlyer

They are getting their last digs in. I don’t want to unfairly accuse them of smearing Rubio so they can try and salvage today, but someone is spreading an accusation that Rubio is/was a hot tub homo party boy.
Either it is a cheap smear or or he actually WAS/is a pervert, one or the other .... “Marco” ... “Polo!”
glub glub


24 posted on 02/19/2016 9:54:45 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Cobra64

What statements?

It is common knowledge that Trump has had a several bankruptcies where he left a lot of people unpaid. That’s how filing bankruptcy works. Is that not known to you?


25 posted on 02/19/2016 9:55:01 PM PST by DB
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To: Aria

For that alone he should be President.


26 posted on 02/19/2016 9:58:33 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: DB

Read the law. Chapter 7 is different from Chapter 11.


27 posted on 02/19/2016 10:01:36 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: heights

Welcome to the club!


28 posted on 02/19/2016 10:05:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TBP

Trump has never filed personal bankruptcy. 4 out of his hundreds of business interests went into Bankruptcy but that is not the same thing as filing bankruptcy personally which is what his critics are alluding to and all the businesses are still operational today. Its not abnormal to have failures in business but Trump has done very well in mitigating the failures and maximizing his successes. Trying to deny him that is ridiculous.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13286068/4/the-backstory-on-donald-trump-s-four-bankruptcies.html


29 posted on 02/19/2016 10:06:13 PM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Cobra64

That’s a major problem here....NONE of the anti-Trumpers/rabid Cruzers know or understand financial things, even the difference between a business going into CHAPTER 11 and personal, bankruptcy. Actually, there are a whole LOT of other things that they are also completely in the dark about and are being played like badly made violins, by anti-Trumper pundits and stupidly written articles.


30 posted on 02/19/2016 10:09:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Slyfox

It’s all hogwash, which YOU and your ilk guzzle down, as though it was something tastey.


31 posted on 02/19/2016 10:10:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Cobra64

He filed for chapter 11 each time to “reorganize” your debt.

By definition you file when you can’t pay your bills.

People were shorted in the process. That’s how it works.


32 posted on 02/19/2016 10:10:47 PM PST by DB
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To: TBP

A radio host from Houston, Michael Berry, played audio from Trump’s vet line. It told callers to go to the website or press one. Press one, it says thanks and hangs up.

I haven’t called.


33 posted on 02/19/2016 10:11:45 PM PST by LoneStar42
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To: nopardons

There you go assuming things not in evidence.

A number of us are business owners who run businesses with payrolls.


34 posted on 02/19/2016 10:12:30 PM PST by DB
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To: nopardons

By the way, do you run a business with a payroll?


35 posted on 02/19/2016 10:13:28 PM PST by DB
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To: TBP

Cruz is a Liar! sarc


36 posted on 02/19/2016 10:13:30 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: TBP

Need more cowbell ...!

37 posted on 02/19/2016 10:15:56 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Perhaps liberals want New York and Canadian politicians in the white house. Conservatives want ted Cruz in the white house.


38 posted on 02/19/2016 10:17:23 PM PST by plain talk
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To: PJBankard
Trump has never filed personal bankruptcy. There is a difference between personal bankruptcy and corporate bankruptcy. But I guess you don’t care.

Do you care about the people who lost their jobs when Donald Trump chose bankruptcy for his corporation?

39 posted on 02/19/2016 10:20:31 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: DB

Who exactly were shorted? Do you have facts, or is this internet hearsay from DailyKoz and democratunderground?


40 posted on 02/19/2016 10:43:54 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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