F*K 'EM. They earned their pie in the face bigtime. No bail out.
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Normally, to change a password, you first use that password to gain access to the system. Then you change the password from there.
So that means the government had the password from the beginning, and since a county IT worker changed it within 24 hours, the government must also have the new password.
So the FBI had the unlocked phone info immediately, and still had access to the phone through the new password.
So what, exactly, does Apple have to do with any of this?
> The Apple ID passcode linked to the iPhone belonging to one of the San Bernardino terrorists was changed less than 24 hours after the government took possession of the device, senior Apple executives said Friday. If that hadn’t happened, Apple said, a backup of the information the government was seeking may have been accessible
The information was passcode protected prior to the FBI and was retrievable, yet the information passcode protect after the FBI is not retrievable?
How does Apple know when the device password was changed?
Apple has a backup of the information?
I think Apple is putting out a smoke screen
And not much reported by the media, the terrorist was a county government employee.
So much irony,...
Doesn’t matter. If a criminal tossed his gun in a landfill and the FBI wanted to search the landfill, would the landfill owner be required to spend money on a sifter to search through the waste? Apple doesn’t work for the feds. Nor should they diminish their security product. If they FBI wants to hack the phone hire someone to do it. Better yet, push back from your computers and try some human intelligence work (HUMINT) instead of being keyboard cops.
So what? All they’re asking for is to disable the retries limit, then they’ll crack the pw and decrypt the content like they’ve done many times in the past.
I’m with apple on this one.
On a side note how did fbi change the apple ID if phone was locked?
So could it be the FBI cracked it, downloaded what they needed and the locked it back up to demand Apple do this for ‘national security”?
I would not put it past them the way they have lide.
Under oath even...
Keep in mind what ‘the government’ is.
It’s the guy next door who works for the ATF, or the DMV or HUD.
Would you let him go through your email, your bank account, your texts to your wife?
Hell no.
‘The Government’ is nothing more than people otherwise equal to you who are trying to take advantage of you under the cloak of law.
Curiouser and curiouser!
I read through the govt court filing involved. The govt attorneys are snarky and very unprofessional. It is an embarassment that with their high positions and salaries that they filed a public document that comes across as being written by childish jerks. A public pissing contest between Apple and snarky bureaucrats makes the govt look bad.
From the govt filing it appears Apple was cooperating in the process of getting the data. Apple failed in the attempt and discovered that the govt hadn’t bothered to inform Apple that the govt (local) had already screwed with the phone preventing retrieval.
Without the govt incompetence we would already be acting on the data instead of having to force a universal back door to be created.
It must be important time critical data since the court will have a hearing on the filing in a month.
Does anyone know if this terrorist iPhone was distributed by the Obama-Phone program?
I would think that Apple would have a log of the change, along with the IP address of where it was done from.
There's a whole lot of confusion over all this... and I don't trust anyone involved to tell us the truth.
Just a quick thought.
The iPhone used by the terrorist was the property of the county, which would be getting the phone bills, which include all the phone calls made on that phone, so that information is readily available to the FBI, isn’t it? I monitor the phones and pay phone bills for those phones that we give to our employees and I am able to see all the calls made and received, including those employees with iPhones.
Those phone records make it easy to track who was being called by the terrorist, so are we to believe that the terrorist had only one phone, and was setting up additional attacks using a phone that didn’t belong to him and could easily be checked to see his usage?
Ans what about the wife’s phone, the supposed “mastermind”. We have heard nothing about her phone, but if she were IM ing her husband wouldn’t her phone show those?
This is beginning to smell like a
Loretta Lynch Corporate shake down
as she practiced in her prior job at DOJ
The bottom line is that the FBI itself blocked access to the phone’s contents, either through screwing up or deliberately in order to engineer this case as an opportunity to set a precedent. In neither case does Apple have any proper legal or moral obligation to bail them out.