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The ‘Steak and Lobster’ Food-Stamp Myth Refuses to Die
New York Magazine ^ | February 19, 2016 | Claire Landsbaum

Posted on 02/19/2016 10:38:02 AM PST by nickcarraway

The concept of the food-stamp queen was first proffered by Ronald Reagan during a 1976 campaign speech. "In Chicago, they found a woman who holds the record," he told the assembled crowd. "She used 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, Social Security, veterans' benefits for four nonexistent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare. Her tax-free cash income alone has been running $150,000 a year." Reagan's story turned out to be a gross exaggeration of a minor case of welfare fraud, but since their patron saint conjured her up, conservatives have been unable to rid themselves of the image of the food-stamp queen. And despite her nonexistence, they've tried over and over again to stamp her out.

Their latest attempt takes the form of a bill introduced by New York senator Patty Ritchie designed to keep people from using New York's Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program to buy things like expensive steaks, lobster, decorated cakes, or energy drinks. "The goal of this legislation is to improve dietary quality and reduce obesity," as well as to "restrict the abuse of the program," reads the bill's memo.

Even if it passes the Democratic-controlled senate, the bill is unlikely to accomplish either goal. According to a 2007 report by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, "no evidence exists which indicates that food stamp benefits directly contribute to poor food choices and negative dietary outcomes, such as obesity." The majority of food-stamp recipients still buy a portion of their food with their own money, with which they can make as many unrestricted choices as they want.

The Republican fear of "abuse" of food stamps to purchase "luxury items" is founded on a decades-old and highly unrealistic stigma. Last April, when Missouri politicians introduced a similar bill, Representative Rick Brattin told the Washington Post, "I have seen people purchasing filet mignons and crab legs with their EBT [Electronic Benefit Transfer] cards. When I can't afford it on my pay, I don't want people on the taxpayer's dime to." Similar outrage flared up in Kansas when a bill was introduced to limit "a long list of items, including alcohol, cigarettes, concert tickets, theme park tickets, or cruises," and in Wisconsin, where another aimed to strike "crab, lobster, shrimp, and any other shell fish" from the list of available foods. Yet in studies of the diets of people on food stamps, they're shown to eat less seafood than the rest of us, and about the same amount of beef. (How they would buy cruise tickets with their benefits is unclear.)

"It's seeking to legislate urban myths in our society," Milwaukee representative Evan Goyke told WSAU when Wisconsin's bill was in the spotlight. "Forty-one percent of the people who receive food stamps are under the age of 18, and the next largest chunk are the elderly. And they're not eating lobster; they're struggling to get by."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: welfare
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To: Travis T. OJustice
What made it even worse was the check out girl rang them up so that only ONE package rang up, not the whole bundle. The total was something like $15 for 10 DOZEN oysters.

Even the customer said, "I don't think that's right". The girl said "That's what it rang up."

121 posted on 02/19/2016 1:01:54 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: FourtySeven

Would the actual register receipt actually say “Debt Food Stamps Tender”? Looks phony to me.


122 posted on 02/19/2016 1:02:38 PM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

The buyer converted the lobsters and steaks into cash by selling them at 50% off.


123 posted on 02/19/2016 1:15:32 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Cementjungle

When I wake up at 2 in the morning screaming, it’s your fault.


124 posted on 02/19/2016 1:21:06 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Bigg Red

Even Snopes says it’s a real receipt.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/receipt.asp


125 posted on 02/19/2016 1:22:02 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Your winnings, sir.


126 posted on 02/19/2016 1:22:47 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative
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To: Qiviut

A few years ago we had dinner at a friend’s house. Steak and lobster!

“Wow - how come such a special dinner?”

“Bob found a job, so this is the last of the food stamps - we’ll have to eat regular food for awhile.”


127 posted on 02/19/2016 1:25:16 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Bigg Red

Snopes says its legit:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/receipt.asp


128 posted on 02/19/2016 1:28:36 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: ltc8k6

“The buyer converted the lobsters and steaks into cash by selling them at 50% off.”

True, according to Snopes.


129 posted on 02/19/2016 1:30:39 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: Neoliberalnot

“Why should the parasites and moochers get all the benefits? Why not some for the people that supply the leeches?”

Excellent point. Merchants get taxed, too, and why not have some of that tax money come back to them in the form of sales? I totally agree.


130 posted on 02/19/2016 1:34:37 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: 21twelve

Oh boy. I would have been biting my tongue for sure.


131 posted on 02/19/2016 1:41:46 PM PST by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: Cementjungle
Kind of cute eyes, but you get the impression she wears that cowl neck to conceal the on-off switch on the back of her neck.

Someone needs to replace her political module.

132 posted on 02/19/2016 2:11:39 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Pietro

“One of the things I’ve noticed is the prodigious quantity of soda pop they buy.

That crap is poison.”

It sure is. Once weaned off of it it is nasty too.

My aunt taught me how to cook. It’s old school Southern cooking, but I can stretch a dollar five times as far as my wife when she goes shopping. Greens, cornbread, chicken fried steak and sweet potatoes with cream gravy, from scratch, hoss. Larrupin’! As opposed to a few ounces of deli meat, hummus and a couple little boxes of crackers.


133 posted on 02/19/2016 2:32:29 PM PST by Psalm 144 ("Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded" - James Madison)
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To: nickcarraway

A friend of mine runs a non-profit to help people in Africa.

One of the things they do is have pack-a-thons, where you pay $25 to work for an hour manufacturing just-add-water and heat meals. Two meals a day of this meets all of your nutritional requirements, and actually tastes pretty good.

And it costs about 50 cents per meal in ingredients.

This is what we should be feeding people who cannot afford food, instead of giving them a debit card.


134 posted on 02/19/2016 2:55:48 PM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: tbw2

There’s always whiners (many Hollyweirdos) complaining about SNAP not covering the entire food bill for the entire family for the entire month. Sorry to break it to them but the “S” in SNAP stands for “supplemental” meaning it’s merely a bonus, not the whole shebang.


135 posted on 02/19/2016 3:07:13 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: nickcarraway

So 41% of the recipients are also getting two free meals five days a week at school. That means almost two-thirds of the ‘assistance’ is redundant and could be easily converted to expendable tax-free income. The system is not only rife with fraud; it is designed to encourage it.


136 posted on 02/19/2016 3:08:10 PM PST by antidisestablishment (If Washington was judged with the same standard as Sodom, it would not exist.)
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To: central_va

“Everyone I see at the Food Lion that uses EBT usually drives a new car.”

And most of the EBT users I see have to waddle out to their new car!


137 posted on 02/19/2016 3:08:25 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: Mr Rogers
The Link Between Food Stamps and Obesity

40% of People On Food Stamps Are Obese, Gov't Study Finds

138 posted on 02/19/2016 3:16:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: 21twelve
“Bob found a job, so this is the last of the food stamps - we’ll have to eat regular food for awhile.”

Well, at least you got back some of what you paid in. Guess Bob doesn't have any common sense to stock the pantry with regular food to tide them over when Bob loses the new job or to throw that extra $ into next month's rent.

I had a friend who was on food stamps for a very short while. The husband got a job like a month or two into the program but the welfare office wouldn't take them off until around the 6 mo. mark. Or so she claimed. She is also on SSI and is more physically fit than I am. Claims she can't work but drives to the city 2-3 times a week to shop and visit. Visits and shops locally on the other days of the week. Goes to the pool every other day. Has a garden and works with kids. I have to plan it out just to do simple daily chores so they don't kill me. Notice the past tense in "had" a friend. Makes me angry thinking about it. That's another government program that is being scammed big time.

139 posted on 02/19/2016 3:21:00 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Mr. K

Illegal aliens can get SNAP, housing, and Medicaid almost as soon as they walk across the border. They’re given an “immigrant registration number” and a court date for a deportation hearing, then released.
To get welfare benefits, they only need to fill in their “immigration registration number” on the application, which also requires an address. You’d think, then, that the address in welfare records would make it easy to go get ‘em when they don’t show up for their deportation hearing. But noooooo...
So much fraud is being abetted by the US government.

A dope dealer who owned several vacant, blighted 4-plexes was collecting section-8 rent subsidies, and using the rent money to purchase more drugs and expand his drug empire. The apartments were vacant; he just had various women in the neighborhood (who had multiple fake IDs and SS#s) get the vouchers and claim to live there. The rent was auto-deposited into his account. He’d give them kickbacks in cash or drugs. Section 8 is supposed to inspect the properties but didn’t, so it was years before anyone caught on that they weren’t even occupied.

Another woman who owned her house had 2 identities. So she posed as both landlady and tenant, got paid “rent” on the taxpayer’s dime to live in her own house. They should take pictures, or thumbprints. Or something.


140 posted on 02/19/2016 3:26:07 PM PST by mumblypeg (Reality is way more complicated than the internet. That's why I'm here.)
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