Posted on 02/07/2016 4:23:32 PM PST by Kaslin
This story actually broke just as we were warming up for the debate last night and our readers were discussing it in comments while most of the political sphere was focused on New Hampshire. Ahead of their original schedule, Kim Jong-un launched a missile into orbit allegedly carrying an “Earth observing satellite” over the objections of pretty much everyone else on the planet. Like we needed this on top of everything else that’s going on.(WaPo)
North Korea on Sunday declared that it had successfully put an "earth observation satellite" into orbit under the direct orders of leader Kim Jong Un, and said it planned to launch "many more."
Both the South Korean defense ministry and the Pentagon said that the rocket, launched at 9 a.m. North Korean time from a launch pad near the Chinese border, appeared to have successfully reached space.
The United States, Japan and South Korea immediately condemned the launch, a move widely seen as another step toward North Korea mastering the technology for making a missile capable of striking the mainland United States. The U.N. Security Council called an emergency meeting for later Sunday to discuss how to respond to the country's latest provocation.
It certainly looks like they put something into space, though how much of an actual satellite it is remains to be seen. The particularly bad news is that this was a long range launch, passing directly over Okinawa, and could hit any number of targets if it wasn’t heading for space. Couple that with their most recent nuclear weapons testing and you’ve got a recipe for some furrowed brows in all the western nations. For that matter, even China condemned the launch (though in rather mild tones) and they’re Kim’s only remaining friends in the world with any real power.
Even though the news was still fresh off the press it showed up at the GOP debate. Ted Cruz offered a few dire words on the subject when asked.
With respect to North Korea and what we should do now, one of the first things we should do is expand our missile defense capacity. We ought to put missile defense interceptors in South Korea. South Korea wants them. One of the real risks of this launch, North Korea wants to launch a satellite, and one of the greatest risks of the satellite is they would place a nuclear device in the satellite. As it would orbit around the Earth, and as it got over the United States they would detonate that nuclear weapon and set of what’s called an EMP, and electromagnetic pulse which could take down the entire electrical grid on the Eastern seaboard, potentially killing millions.
We need to harden the grid to defend ourselves, and we need missile defense to protect ourselves against North Korea.
There’s been plenty of discussion of the threat of a North Korean EMP attack on the United States for years now with varying opinions on just how effective it would be. The overwhelming consensus is that it certainly wouldn’t be good, but precisely how bad it would be depends on a lot of factors including the efficacy of the bomb, where it was relative to the continent, altitude and other questions which can’t be answered up front. Perhaps the bigger question is just how up to date our intelligence is and if we would really know for sure if they had developed the ability to load a bomb on such a mission.
The second, more obvious worry is that it wouldn’t be heading into space, but directly for Seattle. So what do we do about it? Missile defense systems in South Korea sound good, but there are logistic and political hurdles to that, mostly involving China. I’d love to have a definitive answer here short of wiping out Pyongyang preemptively, but I don’t. Thankfully I’m not running for president. Let’s hope whoever wins this election has something in mind, because North Korea is no longer just a hypothetical problem.
Yes, I agree with that.
China has disturbances with it’s neighbors too though.
I still say China and Russia are very stupid to aid people who are fully capable of hating them as much as they do us.
“Wipe out Pyongyang and Tehran simultaneously?”
Wouldn’t it be awesome if the NORKS launched a nuke, the guidance system was hacked and it mysteriously blew up Tehran?
Their smaller rockets such as the Rodong-1 are a much more serious threat, since they are mobile-launched and now have the range to hit most of Japan with a range up to 1,500 kilometers (930 miles). As such, the North Koreans would use the Rodong-1 to specifically target US military bases in Japan with a 20-25 KT nuclear warhead, primarily Sasebo Naval Base, Iwakuni Marine Corps Air Base, Atsugi Air Base (US Navy), Yokota Air Base (USAF), Yokosuka Naval Base and Misawa Air Base (USAF).
10,000,000 residents of Seoul would object to the probable subsequent shelling by 10,000 artillery pieces.
You are right - Chine and NK are joined at the hip and they have been since WWII. The were the major force in Korea when the war was going on in the early 50’s.
Yep, and one more time, what did all that trade buy us?
Now more of the same under TPP.
What do you bring to the table?
An EMP would cause more devastation.
Yes, that’s true.
I would. Bush should have taken out Mecca right after 911. The planet would be very polite today.
Maybe.
Maybe the survivors in North Korea would let out a collective sigh of relief.
Newt mentioned EMP repeatedly last go-round. He’s briefed the military and was consulted by the author of “One Second After.” People should read the book. An EMP strike is so easy, it is inevitable.
Take out Mecca?
Bush wouldn’t even close our border.
He shut down *our* planes but flew hundreds of Saudis out of the country.
They could just put an EMP on a Scud and launch from a freighter. This, literally, is not rocket science.
I know. It’s pathetic. We need Curtis LeMay thinking in a CIC. Look him up + Tokyo.
But would they be able to get it past our radar and anti-missile defense system? My understanding is that we’ve got pretty good defense except from the southern hemisphere, and having a satellite that could drop a bomb from the southern hemisphere is our area of vulnerability. Am I understanding that correctly?
Obama has been depleting our military when we’re facing worse and worse threats all the time, and I don’t understand how he can do all this stuff to make us vulnerable without at least SOMEBODY calling it the treason that it is.
Bomber Harris works for me as well.
No arguments. A scud launched from a freighter 3 miles off our coast would get through. We are naive.
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