Posted on 02/03/2016 6:40:56 PM PST by Helicondelta
On Wednesday, Karl Rove, not a Trump fan by any means, explained how the cheating could have cost Donald Trump the election in Iowa.
Wow!
This is a stunning indictment of the Cruz Campaign's cheating scandal.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
“Cruz didn’t just win Evangelicals.”
Obviously. But’s it’s where he and Carson both draw their majority.
There’s 1681 precincts x 4 = 6724.
The notion that there would be no attrition from Cruz’s tampering, or that there would be any change of significance to another campaign other than Cruz, is ludicrous.
I still think Cruz would have won just by a smaller margin.
I listened to a little bit of Rush today, and he was using a mathematical scenario where, if anything changed, it wasn’t enough to change the outcome.
So you conveniently haven’t heard him talk about Eliminating Obama care? You haven’t heard him talking about working with hospitals and doctors? you haven’t heard him talk about helping those who have no where else to turn...those “Dying in the streets?” You also haven’t heard about insurance across state lines and allowing a competitive market and not single payer? My oh my how selective your ear is. You only hear hat you want to hear.
Boom.
Trump did want to take her property. He said that using eminent domain, so long as the purpose was good, such as jobs. He also claimed she only wanted more money, that her thing was all about money. How he divined her motives is never explained. But, when you’re filthy rich and you want something someone else has, you can use your wealth to influence the powerful and force a property owner to give it up.
“... Cruz who is the biggest threat to their power. Their power and money are all that matter.”
Hedi Cruz is the Managing Director for Goldman Sachs, Houston - and, no, I do not care that she is on a leave of absence ... Not the same as resigning - but even resigning her GS position would not change the fact of her influence.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-cruz-7778114
Goldman Sachs is THE most corrupt banking institution in the world. It is leveraged at 549:1 - most of it being derivatives and credit default swap contracts on the sovereign debt of foreign nations - and particularly with Spain.
From the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency -
OCC’s Quarterly Report on Bank Trading and Derivatives Activities Fourth Quarter 2013:
The top 25 banks in the U.S. now hold $304 TRILLION in notional derivatives value. The top 5 banks are as follows:
JP Morgan: $70.4 TRILLION
Citigroup: $63.5 TRILLION
Bank of America: $55.7 TRILLION
Goldman Sachs: $53.5 TRILLION
Morgan Stanley: $46.7 TRILLION
TOTAL Derivatives Exposure for Top 5 Banks in the U.S.: $290 TRILLION
http://www.occ.gov/topics/capital-markets/financial-markets/trading/derivatives/dq413.pdf
Leverage: How Cheap Money Will Destroy the World
http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1118122844,descCd-buy.html
Goldman Sachs has its agents riddled throughout the federal government - in fact, it is so thoroughly embedded into the federal government that you might as well state that Goldman Sachs IS the federal government!
So, to state that “... Cruz who is the biggest threat to their power. Their power and money are all that matter” is to admit that you do not grasp the big picture. If Cruz becomes POTUS, Goldman Sachs will then occupy the most powerful office in the world - and Ted Cruz will merely be their figurehead puppet:
I Am Putting Everything In Goldman Sachs Because These Guys Can Do Whatever The Hell They Want
The Fed Wants to Test How Banks Would Handle Negative Rates
Cruz is likely soon going to be investigated by the FEC for those two loans. That will not help his image.
As you said;
Rove's point here is one of those arguments that sounds sensible at first blush--only 4 votes per precinct doesn't sound like a whole lot, after all. But Carson's total was 17,000 votes (that's around 11.5 votes per precinct), which means than an increase of 6,239 total (or 4 per precinct) would represent a 30+% increase in Carson's vote total. Not plausible!Rove's point also ignores that Carson out-performed both his polling average leading up to the caucus, and his entrance poll numbers. There is simply no support for the idea that Carson lost any support, much less any significant support, due to Cruz's misinformation.
Pings to a few others included...
Healthcare, or rather, health insurance (which does not guarantee health “care”) has no business being in the hands of government. PERIOD. It is not a right. It is not an “entitlement”. It should left to the people and private industry.
Really, Karl Rove— he’s some idiot guru for the GOPe— and hasn’t got a clue. I’ll take Rush’s analysis with the numbers. It was Rubio’s people (led by Rove no doubt) trying to pass this off to Cruz. Way to go Karl. Gonna lose another one to your moron concepts. It is no longer Bushie time, and definitely not Romney time nor his “boy wonder” who’s uh, not too bright.
Thank you Iowan for the first-person witness.
It's easy to figure out the priorities and morals of the argument makers and Trump minions.
Seems you do what progressives do, when they can’t wrap their brains around reality....they change the meaning of words to fit their narrative and delusion.
Yeah, I just watched the CNN report on Hannity. No harm in what Ted’s guys tweeted out. Carson DID decide to jump off the campaign trail that night. And with a really lame excuse about “fresh clothes” whatever that means. That’s fair game for a caucus certainly.
If there was a report Jeb had to go back to Florida to sort out Columba’s credit card bills and Trump would have tweeted out that he’s a quitter, we all would have thought it brilliant.
I used to be a big Cruz fan but now I’ve been a bit disappointed with how he’s been acting lately. This cheating also puts me off.
i’m not sure who’s side you are supporting, but the huge CNN graphic says:
C A R S O N T A K I N G A B R E A K
I assume you saw that and was making this point to the earlier post
Here is a link to a page that has a copy of King's tweet: http://whotv.com/2016/02/02/steve-king-tweets-under-fire-by-ben-carsons-campaign/
I'm not sure what you will see for the time stamp, because I think it will translate the time stamp to your local time (I see 8:20PM since I am in the Eastern time zone). However, if you hover over the time stamp, you will see that the tweet was made at 01:20:52 UTC, where UTC is universal (Greenwich) time. Since Iowa is in the UTC-6 time zone during the winter, this conclusively shows the actual time of the tweet was 7:20 PM Iowa time, not 8:20 PM (which Rove probably saw when looking at this tweet from Washington DC).
The other times in Rove's analysis were in Iowa time; the refutation by Carson was 40 minutes AFTER King's tweet, not before. So this pretty much nukes Rove's entire argument.
And there lack of ethics and morals - while they champion the same behavior demonstrated by their good “Christian” Preacher man.
The fact that all they can do is ridicule, insult and name call shows that they’ve been caught with their pants down and their dirty hands in the cookie jar. If Trump did something like this, they’d be livid and demanding he resign from the race ... and I would agree with them!
The intellectual dishonesty on display here by so many Cruz supporters is rather stunning to witness.
No, I hear him talk about how he (as President, or king, or whatever hierarchy he is imagining) will help ALL the little people, at the governments expense.
That’s all I need to hear, to know GOVERNMENT EXPENSE = Taxpayers Expense = Universal Healthcare = NO THANK YOU.
I’m the farthest thing from a Trump supporter. Don’t get me started, I loathe the man, and not just because he completely lacks character, but because his policies are all PROGRESSIVE.
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