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Psychology: Deradicalizing Muslim terrorists (very interesting)
nocompulsion.com ^ | Nicolai Sennels

Posted on 01/30/2016 4:43:51 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: Carry_Okie
BTW, I had not before recognized in the last phrase of the Declaration that it elevates one's property to a status coequal with life itself and duty to G_d. Nice touch there.

Have I gained another convert to Declarationism? :)

141 posted on 01/31/2016 11:30:17 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Carry_Okie; MamaTexan
"We the people... do ordain and establish" powers specifically limited to that purpose.

The Declaration is the true trap for the Constitution termites.

Nod your head in agreement with their parsing of the Constitution, then drag them over to the Declaration for the kill.

If they Deny the Declaration, then you're at liberty to cast them into the Outer Darkness at will.

142 posted on 01/31/2016 11:35:55 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil
Have I gained another convert to Declarationism? :)

Sorry, no can do. I always have been a fan.

143 posted on 01/31/2016 11:43:49 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: kiryandil
"We the people... do ordain and establish" powers specifically limited to that purpose.

Obviously from the Constitutional preamble, not the Declaration. It amazes me that almost no one cites the Preamble in court as Constitutional law.

144 posted on 01/31/2016 11:45:52 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: RoosterRedux; Candor7
from the article: Muslim terrorists are most often very well versed in the Islamic scriptures, and trying to make them think that certain parts of the Quran should be seen from a historical perspective and not as guidelines in the modern world is futile. Since leaving Islam is punishable by death, one has to be able to present very convincing protection programmes to whoever considers leaving this religion.

Decreasing religiosity in Muslims who take the Quran literally is impossible as long as they are able to indoctrinate themselves and each other with the Islamic texts and practises. It can be necessary to deprive them of the source that fuels their hate and political ideas.

Making it so difficult to practise orthodox and therefore illegal Islam in our countries that they need to go elsewhere if they want to continue their way of life is a solution. ~~~

Outlaw the death cult. Make them go back to their hell holes and take the western converts with them.

145 posted on 01/31/2016 11:46:08 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I just started reading here and there on this “no compulsion” site and I am highly uneducated when it comes to Islam....but I do think this blog takes the right approach in understanding what Islam is all about.

A couple of questions

Why is islam making inroads in the US prison system ?
What is the appeal to criminals?

the same question applies to the US black muslim population ( which I assume is being indoctrinated through the prison system and other places)

what is difference (if any) between Black Muslims and Islam?

more questions to come


146 posted on 02/01/2016 12:32:49 AM PST by woofie
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To: woofie; RoosterRedux

This might be a clue:

EXCERPT:

http://genius.com/Malcolm-x-chapter-17-mecca-annotated

...Never have I been so highly honored. Never have I been made to feel more humble and unworthy. Who would believe the blessings that have been heaped upon an American Negro? A few nights ago, a man who would be called in America a `white’ man, a United Nations diplomat, an ambassador, a companion of kings, gave me his hotel suite, his bed. By this man, His Excellency Prince Faisal, who rules this Holy Land, was made aware of my presence here in Jedda. The very next morning, Prince Faisal’s son, in person, informed me that by the will and decree of his esteemed father, I was to be a State Guest.

The Deputy Chief of Protocol himself took me before the Hajj Court. His Holiness Sheikh Muhammad Harkon himself okayed my visit to Mecca. His Holiness gave me two books on Islam, with his personal seal and autograph, and he told me that he prayed that I would be a successful preacher of Islam in America. A car, a driver, and a guide have been placed at my disposal, making it possible for me to travel about this Holy Land almost at will. The government provides air-conditioned quarters and servants in each city that I visit. Never would I have even thought of dreaming that I would ever be a recipient of such honors — honors that in America would be bestowed upon a King — not a Negro.

All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of all the Worlds.

Sincerely,

El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz

(Malcolm X)”


147 posted on 02/01/2016 2:00:19 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Travis McGee

“That will be the common understanding in a few years, after the jihad car bombs etc begin to explode across Eurpe on a daily basis.”

Half of the American population already has no excuse for their lack of understanding of Islam. How any American female could accept the behavior of Muslims, such as female genital mutilation, ad nauseam, or the religiously sanctioned rapes committed by Muslims - - - -


148 posted on 02/01/2016 4:25:29 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: woofie

One ironic difference is that American blacks usually are unaware of the religion of those who enslaved their ancestors, and who still practice slavery.

IIRC, real Muslims use Black Muslims and hold them in contempt behind their backs.


149 posted on 02/01/2016 4:32:44 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: GladesGuru

You would think....
But they don’t think.


150 posted on 02/01/2016 4:34:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Carry_Okie

All US citizens as adults should be recorded pledging allegience IMHO and held accountable. But that’s probably beyond reality at this moment.

So regarding legal foreign residents and naturalized citizens ...

The cheapest way to monitor someone is through periodic eye dialation testing. They could be in another state staring into a camera designated for the purpose. With ‘zoom’ tech [very cheap], its easy to train someone to notice eye dialation and other tells during a brisk question-answer.

But, if that makes voters too uncomfortable, we could consider more expensive solutions.

If there is compelling evidence that such a pledge is violated ... perhaps decided by a board appointed by the state governments [each term limited tightly], then surveillance should be warranted in secret to monitor such a person until that person has been a US citizen for so-and-so number of years.

And frankly — no new young muslim men allowed in for now. We might be pliable otherwise, particularly if they are from low-risk nations.


151 posted on 02/01/2016 4:41:51 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: RoosterRedux

bttt


152 posted on 02/01/2016 4:43:47 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Carry_Okie; ETL; caww

‘This is why the Shahada is effectively a renunciation of American citizenship, because it is a renunciation of a commitment to ANY person or country.’

Oaths will weed out a high percentage, especially for a couple of years.

But a terrorist is flexible and there is always al takkiya — Muhammad granting the ‘sacred’ right to deceive unbelievers for the purpose of infiltration [and just about any other scheme].

Al takkiya also qualifies for a discount on Muhammad’s used camels. [Just kidding.]

That is why I frequently asked if Obama is an ‘al takkiya’ muslim only faking his Christianity. Note that Reverend Wright is a ‘former’ muslim. both Wright and Obama are friends with Louis ‘Mothership’ Farrakan.


153 posted on 02/01/2016 4:49:18 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: MamaTexan; Carry_Okie

One thing I’m finding out — I’m a patriot first and a constitutionalist second.

I personally would not hesitate to amend the constitution to modify the privacy rights of muslims — just one example. And it’s insane to persecute everyone fairly at US airport security checks.

But good news — many US born muslims assimilate. So perhaps all we need to do is break the cycle ... 85% of US mosques preach violence against infidels. Muslim education must also be monitored and compelled to assimilate.

Of course, we would be risking a devastating terror attack by being less ‘hard line’. So we’ll just have to see how things shake out.

In the meantime, I am all for a ban to prevent importing more muslims.


154 posted on 02/01/2016 6:03:35 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: Carry_Okie

To be clear, I know ‘search and seizure’ does not specify privacy rights. Was referring to ‘unfair treatment’.

Got to raise my ‘game’ with Carry Okie I bet.

— FRegards ....


155 posted on 02/01/2016 6:07:56 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: woofie

One thing to bear in mind, a high percentage of ‘black panthers’ is muslim. Muslim terrorists prettymuch run that organization.

Many black Americans feel that Christianity was forced on them, a ‘white devil’ religion. And the Reverend Wright, for example, was a former muslim who might [via al takkiya] still be a closet muslim.

Obama was educated in muslim school in Indonesia which required all students to be muslims. He too might be ‘al takkiya’.


156 posted on 02/01/2016 6:11:56 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: Carry_Okie; MamaTexan

Islamics can also pretend to assimilate in Canada or England, etc, as an ‘ID-laundering’ method before coming to the US.

The tecnical side of immigration is tricky.


157 posted on 02/01/2016 6:21:04 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
That is why I frequently asked if Obama is an 'al takkiya' muslim only faking his Christianity.

That's easy to answer: There is no fatwa against him for being murtad fatri.

158 posted on 02/01/2016 7:27:57 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
One thing I'm finding out - I'm a patriot first and a constitutionalist second.

There we differ.

159 posted on 02/01/2016 7:29:15 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
That is why I frequently asked if Obama is an 'al takkiya' muslim only faking his Christianity. Note that Reverend Wright is a 'former' muslim. Both Wright and Obama are friends with Louis 'Mothership' Farrakan.

As I've shown numerous times over the years, both Wright's and Farrakhan's operations are "Black Liberation Theology" communist front movements. It is believed that the KGB established basic Liberation Theology back in the 60s. Then in the '80s Black communist James Cone created his BLT variant of it. Farrakhan's true hero is Mao tse Tung.

160 posted on 02/01/2016 7:47:07 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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