Posted on 01/29/2016 9:36:34 PM PST by drewh
Veteran GOP pollster Frank Luntz says there is much more than a political lane available for former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I) to join the presidential race as an independent candidate.
Luntz's reasoning came from a nationwide poll of 900 likely voters conducted by his firm, Luntz Global Partners.
The survey found that 29% of Americans would support Bloomberg in a theoretical three-way race between the former mayor, GOP front-runner Donald Trump, and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton. Trump would receive 37% of the vote, while Clinton would emerge with 33%.
In a three-way race with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Clinton, Bloomberg would receive 28% of the vote. Clinton, meanwhile, would come out on top with 37% while Cruz would take 34%.
Bloomberg would pick up more than 40% of independent voters in the poll — no matter if Rubio, Trump, or Cruz is the Republican in the race. Among Trump, Cruz, Rubio, and Clinton, none would garner more than 35% of the independent vote when Bloomberg is inserted into the race.
The numbers painted a significantly better potential picture for Bloomberg than a recent Morning Consult survey. The survey also put Trump's support at 37% and Clinton's at 36% in such a scenario, but found that a Bloomberg entry would hurt Clinton more than Trump.
Rumblings about a potential Bloomberg bid have grown louder after The New York Times reported on Saturday that billionaire former mayor asked those close to come up with a campaign plan for an independent presidential bid. The 73-year-old Bloomberg has reportedly said that he'd be willing to spend $1 billion of his fortune to run for the White House, according to The Times. He will reportedly make his decision by early March.
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At best, Bloomberg is a cone of Hillary. A weasley anti gun zealot. He cannot gain a single GOP vote.
So does that mean only 37% of Americans support the 2nd amendment?
Why would anyone vote for an anti gun/ anti big gulps candidate?
A guy with a name that has become synonymous with Wall Street elitism running against Trump.
I think you guys fail to see the strategy played here.
Bloomie goes out and could likely win four states (I think California could be one). If you do the law of averages....none of the three would then cross the 270 electoral vote margin....thus the election then goes to the House to decide which one of the three they support.
Most people don’t realize....after the Electoral College is dismissed and the House gets the job....it’s a fifty-state election....state-by-state. So a bunch of promises will have to be made and squared away. Twenty-six groups of political players will be enough to appoint the winner.
In this scenario, Bloomberg doesn’t really have to do that well. He only has to win a couple of states (one big state is necessary)....to push this into a House election instead of a Electoral College election.
Doesn’t that troll Luntz still think Rubio is in the lead?
Why wouldn’t he do well? He has quite a few positives. He is a businessman and has created a number of very successful businesses. He is a billionaire so he is not beholden to special interests. He has New York values and is liberal. He changes political parties. Trump is a great.. oh, we were discussing Bloomberg... or was it Trump? Bloomberg? I can’t keep them straight.
Don’t think so. I say Hillary wins with over 300 electoral votes; pretty easily too. She’s already got CA, NY, and FL. It will be a cakewalk for her.
Once the Clinton Attack machine and Trump goes to work on Bernie/Bloomberg full time either/both will be a pile of smoking garbage.
Bloomberg’s only issues are confiscation of guns and taxpayer funding of abortion. Most Americans oppose these positions.
He is also the ultimate nanny state Stalinist who wants to ban lemonade and soft drinks.
Bloomberg would only get votes in the NYC area, New Jersey and Connecticut. He is not even popular enough to get elected Governor of NY State.
On top of that his personality is so obnoxious that most Americans would find him unbearable.
The good thing is he would help the Republican candidate and hurt the Democrats.
Trump will win Florida .. he’s also beating Hillary in Mich , which means Trump will fare even better in the other must- win rust belt states . Trump will dominate.
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I don’t think so, he might get some idiot liberals to support him and his anti gun crusade but they won’t support his micromanaging their food and drink. And the president can’t be taking off to his island retreat every weekend either, no matter how many vacations Lord Foul has set the precedent to take.
Bloomberg hired Luntz to do this poll. That’s why Luntz is so excited about Bloomers in his comments.
I like to see the geographic distribution of those polled. I think that’s how he produced those numbers.
Why is it when I hear Frank Luntz I see an image of “JOE ISUZU?” You can trust me!
That is pretty amazing. Bloomberg hasn't even started campaigning. Biographically, he kicks Hillary's and Trump's collective butts. But ideologically, he's neither fish nor fowl. He's a fiscal conservative, a law-and-order pol, liberal on social issues but probably a bit too paternalistic for both right and left. Still nobody can accuse Bloomberg of being sleazy, an adjective that applies to both Trump and Clinton. It would be an election between two sleazoids and an NYC mayor whose major failing is being a control freak (2nd Amendment and 16 oz fast food sodas).
He would probably capture the fiscally conservative and socially liberal Republicans and Democrats repelled by Trump's anti-immigrant and protectionistic manifesto. He might even get socially- and economically-conservative Republicans who don't like the fact that Trump operated casinos and a diploma mill and is a notorious philanderer who's gone through two divorces and has boasted of committing adultery with multiple women. He'd also get a substantial chunk of the Asian vote and the black and Hispanic vote that believes in free enterprise but don't like either Trump or Hillary.
Bloomberg narrowly won his 3rd NYC mayoral term, but he did so in a city that is 50% black and Hispanic, which is to say he probably got most of the white and Asian vote.
Bloomberg did better among Asian-American voters than he did in the city as a whole, with 62 percent of Asian Americans supporting Bloomberg, AALDEF said.
Bloomberg floored the gas pedal on campaign expenditures throughout, never letting up in spite of polls showing the election to be a blowout in his favor:
More than three months ago, Bruce N. Gyory was telling anyone who would listen, including advisers to both mayoral campaigns, that while Michael R. Bloomberg was favored to win, his margin would not be more than five to seven percentage points. Mr. Gyory, a lobbyist, political consultant and aide to three New York governors, was convinced that the race would not be the blowout predicted by numerous polls, precisely because of what the polls themselves consistently revealed: The percentage of New Yorkers who said they would vote for Mr. Bloomberg barely climbed above 50. Apparently, the only people who listened worked for Mr. Bloomberg. One after another, independent public opinion polls suggested that the mayor enjoyed a 16 to 18 point lead (a survey released the day before the Nov. 3 election said his lead was 12 percentage points) and was virtually invincible. That the Bloomberg campaign was not heeding those polls was evident in its lavish spending on advertising and its relentless criticism of the Democratic challenger, William C. Thompson Jr., the city’s comptroller.
Bloomberg may lack charisma, but he's a fairly canny political operator, and obviously no dummy business-wise, given his $38.6b self-made fortune and #8 ranking in the Forbes 400 (vs Trump's $4.5b and #121 ranking).
Ditto
Well, that’ll suck the life outta the liberals...or are they trying to pull away the “New York Values” hoplophobic sodaphobes.
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