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Plan to turn a 747 into a missile launcher revealed: Design would have put 70 cruise missiles ...
MAILONLINE ^ | 22 January 2016 | ELLIE ZOLFAGHARIFARD

Posted on 01/23/2016 5:06:41 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

The B-52 had long been one of the Air Force's key weapons, being the first aircraft to attack Baghdad during the Persian Gulf War.

But over the past two decades, half of the military's B-52s have been scrapped due to budget constraints, leading several companies to come up with suggestions for a replacement.

One of these groups was Boeing, who came up with a plan in the 1980s to turn a 747 into a launcher capable of carrying 70 cruise missiles.

The aim was to create a low-cost bomber, at 15 per cent the price of the B-2, but able to carry 50 more missiles than its predecessor.

A major benefit of the plan, according to Boeing, was that the enemy would find it difficult to separate B-747s from civilian 747s.

This would also make it flexible enough to land at civilian airports without raising alarm among nearby residents.

The plane – which remained a concept - was named the Cruise Missile Carrier Aircraft, or CMCA for short.

The design was based on the 747-200C, a cargo version of the plane, with nine launchers mounted on tracks inside of the cabin.

Each launcher would hold eight missiles that could be hidden in the rear right side of the aircraft, according to an in-depth report in Foxtrot Alpha.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3410999/Plan-turn-747-missile-launcher-revealed-Design-70-cruise-missiles-body-Boeing-aircraft.html#ixzz3y4Yw16Dy Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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Boeing came up with a plan in the 1980s to turn a 747 into a launcher capable of carrying 70 cruise missiles. The aim was to create a low-cost bomber, at 15 per cent the price of the B-2, but able to carry 50 more missiles than its predecessor

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3410999/Plan-turn-747-missile-launcher-revealed-Design-70-cruise-missiles-body-Boeing-aircraft.html#ixzz3y4YpUmVM Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

1 posted on 01/23/2016 5:06:41 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Makes perfectly good sense, IMO.


2 posted on 01/23/2016 5:08:13 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
BREAKING!!! 1980's plan revealed!!! ROTFL.

This was public in the 1980's.

3 posted on 01/23/2016 5:08:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The 747 IS an amazing workhorse!


4 posted on 01/23/2016 5:09:12 AM PST by Bobalu (I told you so!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Doomed to failure because it didn’t cost enough.

Politicians and their pals can’t get rich on low cost weapons systems.


5 posted on 01/23/2016 5:10:31 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

During the 1970’s the Air Force Launched a Minuteman Missile from the back of a c-141.


6 posted on 01/23/2016 5:16:08 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
the enemy would find it difficult to separate B-747s from civilian 747s.

I'm not sure that would be a successful gambit in a real war. I would point to RMS Lusitania.

7 posted on 01/23/2016 5:16:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I don't know what Claire Wolfe is thinking but I know what I am thinking.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

For the purpose this bomber plays (of getting cruise missiles close enough that they could be fired), there are MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE options.

Think of putting as few as 1 cruise missile on a WWII prop plane from the boneyard, piloted by remote control. The plane and two hundred like it, but only one-tenth of which carry missiles, would swarm an adversary’s air defense system. The attack would be unstoppable.

All the planes would be one-way throwaways. But, none of the infrastructure exposed. We could follow-up with another swarm attack.

Now put the shoe on the other foot. We’re not the only country with the potential to attack a defense system by this technique.

There’s a certain quality to quantity.


8 posted on 01/23/2016 5:16:22 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Iron Munro

might not the enemy start shooting every 747 it saw out of the air to take no chances?

probably a dumb question. just wondering.


9 posted on 01/23/2016 5:17:42 AM PST by dp0622 (I Officially Don't Know Which One I'm Voting For Yet.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

KAL-007.

Even Clancy had the “look like a civilian airliner” trick in Hunt for Red October. At anything beyond visual range a B-52 is indistinguishable from a 747 or other large airliner.


10 posted on 01/23/2016 5:22:08 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Fly the unfriendly skies.”


11 posted on 01/23/2016 5:23:57 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bingo. Good historical reference. Can’t distinguish it from a civilian ship; then assume its military.


12 posted on 01/23/2016 5:27:21 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Iron Munro

Not so much low lost as one-trick-pony.

Bombers can carry a large variety of munitions. The 747 concept was limited to ALCMs. Where each rotary launcher was chucked out the back once it’s missiles were expended.

In the nuclear role it was a one-shot doomsday platform, a role that was already being adequately filled by SSBNs and ICBMs. In the conventional role, with the then-secrer CALCMs,it was a single use, one shot first-night-of-war platform, lacking the “day two” flexibilty of the other strategic bombers.


13 posted on 01/23/2016 5:29:50 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Low cost, that is.


14 posted on 01/23/2016 5:30:54 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah. Always wondered why we didn’t modify a civilian jumbo to act as a “ bomb truck” for the type of wars we have been fighting. A couple of rotary launchers with various ordinance, it could carry massive bomb loads with the ability to stay on station for extended periods, deliver the goods as needed. But there’s no huge. Contractor $$$$ and not “ sexy” to the Generals.


15 posted on 01/23/2016 5:32:59 AM PST by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'm not sure that would be a successful gambit in a real war. I would point to RMS Lusitania.

In a 'real war', civilian airliners will stay away from the war zone, if they have any sense. This would launch its missiles from up to 1000 to 1500 miles from the target. No enemy SAMs or interceptors can cover that large an envelope.

If you are really worried about interceptors, mix in a few "P-51 Mustang" drone missiles to provide 'escort' if needed. For that matter, the Phoenix system could track enemy fighters out to 120 miles and engage them 60 miles away. The upstairs deck of the 747 has plenty of room for Weapons Intercept and Electronic Countermeasure Operators!

16 posted on 01/23/2016 5:33:46 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: ClearCase_guy

No civilian aircraft in wartime. They become part of the reserve fleet. That’s how we were going to reinforce Europe during a war.


17 posted on 01/23/2016 5:34:52 AM PST by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: Kozak

Most airliners are low-wing, meaning that positioning of the bomb bay(s) becomes a tricky engineering thing, particularly with center of gravity. Witness the various positioning of the 737-derived P-8s weapons bay from front to aft (due in large part to allow mounting of an external side scan radar) prior to design freeze.


18 posted on 01/23/2016 5:39:40 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Kozak

Once you have air superiority then dumb bombs come into play. It isn’t high tech and sexy.


19 posted on 01/23/2016 5:42:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dp0622

There’s this thing called IFFF.


20 posted on 01/23/2016 5:43:23 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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