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Conservatives against Trump: Read their individual reasons as to why they oppose his nomination
National Review ^ | 01/22/2016 | Various National Review Contributors

Posted on 01/22/2016 7:18:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; conservatives; trump
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To: HarleyLady27

In the following Trump interview from 2012, Trump says this country needs major surgery. Trump was asked about running for president, to “lead the way”. Trump said he hopes someone else would emerge as a leader.

Of those who signed on to the manifesto, did they step up? Trump DID step up!

13:50 minutes
Donald Trump interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1kFqviAEHw
May 5 2012


61 posted on 01/22/2016 8:14:12 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: socal_parrot

You’re asking for the impossible. You can’t refute the argument that Trump isn’t a conservative, because he isn’t one.


62 posted on 01/22/2016 8:19:36 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

It has reached a fever pitch this morning! Wow, so much panic I can’t imagine how challenging it must feel to be in their shoes.

I think I’ve seen no less than 8 redstate articles posted already, all devoted to the hate Trump drum beat.

The only name on that list that I’m saddened by is McCarthy.

Other than that, those are not voices I have put much faith in. It’s great to have them listed in all one place!


63 posted on 01/22/2016 8:33:55 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
The article sats “CONSERVATIVES” against Trump. yet you list a roster of committed Establishment RINOs....

I have more respect for some of the authors than others. I wonder if making placing their authorship together in such prominence does not diminish their arguments more than bolstering them.

My fundamental problem with Trump is that he does not fear God.

64 posted on 01/22/2016 8:37:56 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: Valin

“his party”...you mean “his party as of today”


65 posted on 01/22/2016 8:48:56 AM PST by pookie18 (10 months until the general election...)
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To: central_va

Well, I congratulate you on being one of the only posters that actually found a substantive argument to make against one the writers. I disagree with the pragmatism of amnesty of former presidents that you pointed out. In that, we are in agreement. The only point where you and I would differ would be whether or not Trump intends to actually do anything.

He has called for a wall. Huzzah!

Mexico is going to pay for it. Really??? Forgive me if I find this to be absolute gibberish.

His wall will have a big, beautiful door because he likes immigrants. Boo.

Round up the illegals and ship them out. Hurray!!!

Let the good ones back in. Ugh.

Expedite the good ones, ahead of those that wish to enter legally. WTF???

Who are the good ones? The same old shit. The ones that will do what Americans will not, bla, blah, blah.

Trump’s rhetoric, over time, becomes nonsensical. He doesn’t care what he says only because he doesn’t keep track of what he has said in the past. Whatever he thinks will cause applause is what comes out of his mouth. Until you arrive at where his immigration/border “policy” is now.

A wall with a door, get the illegals out but them right back in. His own son said it was amnesty. Why? That’s what it is, dressed up with tough sounding rhetoric with giant, gaping holes in it.


66 posted on 01/22/2016 8:50:57 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: SeekAndFind

Mark Helprin? Shaking my head. Sheesh.


67 posted on 01/22/2016 8:53:13 AM PST by Jaxmum
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Naturally

They are not all in for Trump. So that makes ALL of them rinos by default.

Even as political rinos and the RNC are running to Trump’s side.


68 posted on 01/22/2016 9:18:57 AM PST by American Faith Today
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To: GWB00

you make a Nationalist sound like a bad thing...


69 posted on 01/22/2016 9:23:17 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

RINOS


70 posted on 01/22/2016 9:41:30 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: HarleyLady27

Do I hear a Hallelujah and Amen?

HALLELUJAH AND AMEN!

My take to share with you is TRUMP is a TRUE AMERICAN. The man thinks as I, lived and grew in the same country and the two of US no longer see OUR COUNTRY on the vast horizon.

TRUMP= US and without US there is no victory. There is no AMERICA


71 posted on 01/22/2016 10:59:22 AM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: V K Lee; Jane Long; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Black Agnes; djstex; mkjessup; RoosterRedux; ...

HALLELUJAH AND AMEN!!!


72 posted on 01/22/2016 11:01:25 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ( 'THE FORCE AWAKENS'!!! TRUMP; TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP !!! 100%)
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To: SeekAndFind
With all due respect to these persons, some of whom, e.g. Thomas Sowell, are remarkable and skilled and experienced and accurate observers, whom to they believe should be supported, apart from the man whose constitutional eligibility to the office of the President is extremely doubtful?

It is difficult to discern any GOP candidate with a chance of winning who has a history of getting things done as an executive.

73 posted on 01/22/2016 11:08:57 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: AmericanVictory

RE: It is difficult to discern any GOP candidate with a chance of winning who has a history of getting things done as an executive.

OK, so the case for Trump is not that he is a conservative but that:

1) He has a chance of winning

2) He has a history of getting things done.

#2 above is a two edged sword.

Obama also gets things done HIS WAY.

The question then becomes WHAT GETS DONE? Will what’s getting done against the principles of conservatism be good for the country?


74 posted on 01/22/2016 11:14:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: V K Lee; HarleyLady27

RE: My take to share with you is TRUMP is a TRUE AMERICAN

Are you telling us that ONLY TRUMP meets the above criteria and the other candidates do not?


75 posted on 01/22/2016 11:15:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Other candidates that meet the criteria are: Santorum, Huckabee, Jeb Bush, John Kasick, Carly, and Trump...

Rubio is questionable and NO to Cruz...he was born on Canadian soil...


76 posted on 01/22/2016 11:17:44 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ( 'THE FORCE AWAKENS'!!! TRUMP; TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP !!! 100%)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, am saying nothing against the other candidates. Happen to have liked Cruz from the beginning of his campaign but will be very honest to say my thoughts on him have been changed of late. When I say Trump is a True American it’s meaning is he loves this country as much as I. The two of US get teary and are prone to goose bumps when singing ‘God Bless America’ or when citing ‘I pledge allegiance to the flag’ We see the country as being the country in which we were raised. We see a country that has been eroded over time, corruption, and liberalism. Neither one of US recognize what we see these days and long for ‘what might have been.’ had things been different.


77 posted on 01/22/2016 11:40:53 AM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: SeekAndFind
What indication is there that Trump, if elected by appealing to the principles of conservatism, which is clearly the path he is following,would then govern against those principles and jeopardize being able to be re-elected to a second term?

Trump clearly had made liberal view pronouncements in the past and has supported and donated to liberal Democrat politicians. But he clearly did so because of his need for government favor as a major large building builder, operator of casinos and so forth. His doing that seems to indicate that he would cater to those who can put him in office and re-elect him and whose support would create a favorable place for him in history.

The reality is that he is going to be the Republican nominee. Do you really think that it would make any sense to vote for the Democrat nominee in the general, or some third-party candidate who, if they were to receive a significant part of the vote, would assure that the Democrat would win?

78 posted on 01/22/2016 12:00:58 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: SeekAndFind
What indication is there that Trump, if elected by appealing to the principles of conservatism, which is clearly the path he is following,would then govern against those principles and jeopardize being able to be re-elected to a second term?

Trump clearly had made liberal view pronouncements in the past and has supported and donated to liberal Democrat politicians. But he clearly did so because of his need for government favor as a major large building builder, operator of casinos and so forth. His doing that seems to indicate that he would cater to those who can put him in office and re-elect him and whose support would create a favorable place for him in history.

The reality is that he is going to be the Republican nominee. Do you really think that it would make any sense to vote for the Democrat nominee in the general, or some third-party candidate who, if they were to receive a significant part of the vote, would assure that the Democrat would win?

79 posted on 01/22/2016 12:02:37 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Aria

“So these people have just told us they are ok with the system that put us 19 trillion in debt, creeping sharia law, the increased risk of being shot by “refugees” we are told to welcome, and the loss of our jobs to illegals or people in other countries.”

And You Think DT is actually gonna do something about that? If you do I have a bridge I can sell you cheap.


80 posted on 01/22/2016 1:40:45 PM PST by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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