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End of Europe? Berlin, Brussels' shock tactic on migrants
Reuters ^ | January 18th, 2016 | By Alastair Macdonald and Noah Barkin

Posted on 01/18/2016 3:19:52 PM PST by Mariner

Is this how "Europe" ends?

The Germans, founders and funders of the postwar union, shut their borders to refugees in a bid for political survival by the chancellor who let in a million migrants. And then -- why not? -- they decide to revive the Deutschmark while they're at it.

That is not the fantasy of diehard Eurosceptics but a real fear articulated at the highest levels in Berlin and Brussels.

Chancellor Angela Merkel, her ratings hit by crimes blamed on asylum seekers at New Year parties in Cologne, and EU chief executive Jean-Claude Juncker both said as much last week.

Juncker echoed Merkel in warning that the central economic achievements of the common market and the euro are at risk from incoherent, nationalistic reactions to migration and other crises. He renewed warnings that Europe is on its "last chance", even if he still hoped it was not "at the beginning of the end".

Merkel, facing trouble among her conservative supporters as much as from opponents, called Europe "vulnerable" and the fate of the euro "directly linked" to resolving the migration crisis -- highlighting the risk of at the very least serious economic turbulence if not a formal dismantling of EU institutions.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathofthewest; globaljihad; hijrah; muslimworld; refugees
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To: Mariner

Can’t kelp but wonder how Germany’s tourism industry is going to fare come this spring & summer. Can’t imagine non Muslim visitors will be clamoring to visit.


21 posted on 01/18/2016 3:43:34 PM PST by Kudsman (Restore the Republic, repeal the 17th.)
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To: RoosterRedux

See what I said #16.


22 posted on 01/18/2016 3:44:34 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Mariner
not with a Bang, but a call to prayer
23 posted on 01/18/2016 3:44:52 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Their blood and courage is still alive.


24 posted on 01/18/2016 3:46:48 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light - John Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: TigerClaws
...forced repatriation. Create a 'safe zone' in the ME and send them all the frick back.

I wholeheartedly second that.

If the moozies aren't forcibly repatriated to their corner of the globe, there's going to be bloodshed on a gargantuan scale. It WILL come to that, I'm afraid.

25 posted on 01/18/2016 3:49:10 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Gen.Blather; Berlin_Freeper
Can somebody provide a thumbnail sketch of what the parties support and who supports what and how big they are in the German scheme of things?

Berlin Freeper may be able to help. I pinged him up above.

26 posted on 01/18/2016 3:50:40 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: GraceG

Like Obama, Hillary and Kerry armed the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, the killers of Ambassador Stevens, the killers of Khadaffi,etc., and created Terrorist states where there were none, I wish a wealthy patriot could help arm the people of Germany and Europe. Essentially they are on the FRONT LINES of the battle that’s gradually coming here.


27 posted on 01/18/2016 3:50:44 PM PST by gg188
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To: Mariner
What these politicians mean by "the end of Europe" is the end of the European Union and the whole statist ideal and the bureaucracy to impose it.

"If you build a fence, it's the end of Europe as we know it," one senior conservative said. "We need to be patient."

28 posted on 01/18/2016 3:51:21 PM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: heartwood; All

The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

Final thought.

In the Bible, God prophesied that Ishmael and his descendants would be wild and fight with everyone. This prediction has held true throughout history. Will the world ever have peace with Ishmael? Will Ishmael even find peace himself? Deep down, don’t we all want the same things (love, peace, acceptance)? I wonder how much longer we will have to wait before real peace comes to humanity.

Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

Gen 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand [will be] against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.


29 posted on 01/18/2016 3:52:27 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Kudsman
Can't kelp but wonder how Germany's tourism industry is going to fare come this spring & summer.

I've been seeing lots of comments in the Daily Mail from Americans who say they've already changed their travel plans to exclude western Europe.

Tourism (and tourist dollars) is going to shrink to a tiny fraction of what's normal for those countries. Their stupid leaders brought it upon them. Now let's see what the political costs will be. I expect a severe turn to the right in all their upcoming elections.

30 posted on 01/18/2016 3:56:33 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Mariner

I see these “migrants” as a involuntary suicide squad with plants from ISIS.

The mission: Provoke incidents that will lead to a bloodbath.

ISIS will then activate their actual armed sleepers and will retaliate in an effort to “protect” their fellow Muslims.

The hope will be to then get the Muslims there to flock to their banner, get arms, and really start the invasion.

It’s getting close to GO time.


31 posted on 01/18/2016 4:03:52 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: PGR88

The overly simple views of the left is an international problem.

Take communism as an example. Marx and Engels were German. They lived many years in England. They admired the French Revolution and wanted to perpetuate it across the world endlessly. Lenin learned from Marx and conquered Russia and, with Stalin, the 14 non-Russian nations of the Soviet “Union.”

Hollywood has hardly made any anti-communist movies. FDR was more worried about Churchill than Stalin. When Obama first ran for the Presidency, the US Communist Party was delirious with joy - their man would become President! They have supported him ever since.

On a personal note, whenever I tell a liberal, or “moderate” Republican, that Ronald Reagan defeated the Soviet Union, I always get some kind of push-back. The responses are quite humorous and bizarre. Try it out for fun.


32 posted on 01/18/2016 4:12:13 PM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: ronnie raygun
Pretty sure that the EU thought that by its very nature it could show the U.S. a thing or two.

Maybe knock us down a peg, because we "deserve it" or some nonsense.

Are they the "powerhouse" they thought they would be?

Nope.

You can't just make up an alliance like that with some seriously weak links (like Greece) and expect it to work.

Merkel just put the final nail in Europe's coffin. Not just the stupid EU.

Look for the whole house of cards to collapse.

Another World War wouldn't surprise me.

This time, the U.S. WON'T bail their sorry asses out.

In WWII we were fighting for civilization itself.

Europe apparently doesn't care about civilization.

Let them rot.

33 posted on 01/18/2016 4:13:45 PM PST by boop ("That's a hell of a price to pay for being stylish" -Dirty Harry)
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To: Mariner
Juncker echoed Merkel in warning that the central economic achievements of the common market and the euro are at risk from incoherent, nationalistic reactions to migration and other crises

I think the real risk is from the migration. People's reaction to it is to be expected. I just don't understand these people. It's just suicidal.

34 posted on 01/18/2016 4:19:10 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: dfwgator
First, we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin.

I'd forgotten how great that song was. Leonard Cohen, Stevie Ray Vaughan on guitar. Thanks.

I am a little mystified by the equation of open internal borders and a common currency, or more specifically why the sources quoted appear to think the latter impossible in the absence of the former. I'm an American making American assumptions about the thing, of course, but it strikes me that were an internal passport imposed on the United States (and it has been suggested) the bullets would be flying long before the dollar were affected. There is no history of such a thing in the United States, moreover, and in Europe there is.

Nevertheless, the elephant in the room is that this is clearly not a conventional refugee situation, the population is too large and the demographics are too obviously skewed toward fighting-age males, and that none of the EU elites appear to wish to address that. Worse, those leaders who do - Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic - are publicly branded monsters of oppression.

One hesitates to start throwing words like "conspiracy" around, but suggestions that there is some sort of consensus within European elites that the demographics of Europe must be altered by force, perhaps in the interest of reducing that old bugaboo, nationalism, are met with contemptuous dismissal but no real convincing denial. To an outsider it does appear that a decision has been reached to reduce nationalism by demographics, and it also appears that what will replace it is not some gooey global chumship but a completely different form of internationalism that is theocratic and highly aggressive. In the absence of further information the conclusion is inescapable that the elites haven't thought this thing through, and if they wait much longer to reconsider they'll be presented with a fait accompli. Effective political tactics in the pursuit of a catastrophic strategy.

35 posted on 01/18/2016 4:25:00 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Windflier
I noticed that Wheel of Fortune is having "travel" week.

Normally they would (and have) had trips to Paris, Germany, Spain.

I see that the recent prizes have been: Ireland, Switzerland, Costa Rica, and... the exotic foreign land known as Canada.

It's a shame. I would have loved to see Europe 10 years ago.

I wouldn't go near (a lot) of it today.

36 posted on 01/18/2016 4:25:11 PM PST by boop ("That's a hell of a price to pay for being stylish" -Dirty Harry)
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To: Mariner

Treasonous crone Merkel deserves to end her days in a prison cell. At a minimum.


37 posted on 01/18/2016 4:26:47 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: boop

The former Warsaw Pact countries are becoming the final fortress of civilization in Europe. Who would have thought?


38 posted on 01/18/2016 4:29:29 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: RoosterRedux

Those Vikings and Teutons better be willing to deal with their own police and military if they wish to deal with leftists forcefully. Those same elites giving the moslems the kid glove treatment would use mustard gas on someone they see as a true enemy.


39 posted on 01/18/2016 4:38:41 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes. Nationalism will rise big time. Won’t be pretty.

Same crap is evidently going to have to happen here. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.


40 posted on 01/18/2016 4:47:54 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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