Posted on 01/17/2016 9:34:59 AM PST by walford
UNITED NATIONS DECLARES THE HOLY SEE LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES FOR EFFECTS AND LEGACY OF RACIST COLONIAL BULLS AND DOCTRINES
14 January 2016
As the result of a comprehensive shadow report and presentations by members of the Apache-Nde-Nnee Working Group submitted to the United Nations (UN) Committee on the Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD) for the Committee's review of the Holy See, the UN CERD Committee has recognized that the Doctrine of Discovery, the Holy See's Inter Caetera and related Papal Bulls are within the legal scope of racial discrimination under International Law and therefore require redress.
The UN CERD Committee has also recognized in its concluding observations that the Holy See is responsible for the past and present effects, i.e. the ongoing legacy, of these historical racist legal documents, and that, in addition, the Holy See must be in direct dialogue with appropriate representatives of Indigenous Peoples to discuss its accountability.
The CERD Committee has additionally recognized that the Holy See, in its response to the Committee's questioning regarding issues raised by the Apache-Nde-Nnee Working Group, remarked that a high-level meeting between Indigenous Peoples and the Pope regarding the canonization of Juniper Serra (see pages 13, 14, 27, 28, 30, 34, 35, 38, 48 of the shadow report) will occur at an unspecified time in the future, but that knowledge of such a meeting with Indigenous Peoples has thus-far excluded the Apache-Ndee Nnee and Working Group, as well as the additional issues raised in the shadow report, such as the the Doctrine of Discovery, the Holy See's Inter Caetera and related Papal Bulls, and the past and ongoing effects and legacy therein. The CERD Committee has concluded that these issues and appropriate representatives of Indigenous Peoples must be included in said high-level meeting.
With the support of the UN CERD Committee and its Concluding Observations therein, the Apahche-Nde-Nnee Working Group holds firm and demand that this dialogue between the Pope and Indigenous Peoples must indeed occur, and must include the Apache-Ndee-Nnee Working Group and the issues of the Apache-Ndee Nnee, including those issues raised in the Working Group's shadow report, for full accountability of the Holy See and justice to occur. These dialogues must result in genuine redress and remedy and in the establishment or supporting of the establishment of one or more related Truth Commission(s). Moreover, such a Truth Commission must occur with respect to self-determination, historical correction, and the rights of women and all affected peoples therein.
Follow-up by the UN CERD Committee on the progress of the Holy See in these measures will occur at the Committee's next review of the Holy See, as per the Committee's Concluding Observations.
After downloading and reading the (Shadow report) now I know why the newspaper business is shaping our elections, scandals and everything else...
When people say the media is scum, this really shows it...
Wouldn’t this also apply to the Neanderthals?....................
They never left?....................
Papa will tap the treasury to pay reparations for sure.
Wouldn’t this also apply to the Neanderthals?....................
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Old stuff, black people have been demanding reparations for years now.
Or do you mean the original Neanderthals?
yeah, yeah ,,,,beaver and buffalo.
Pure insect insight from the UN.
Flippin muslim mosquitos.
original. not extra crispy............
Whut? LOL. UN is a joke.
Great post.
OK, aside from that:
It should be obvious that the "Shadow Report" of a "working group" within the "CERD Committee" of the U.N. has no jurisdiction over anybody, anywhere.
The absurd headline and huffing, puffing article were written by, voila, that same "Apache-Nde-Nnee Working Group."
I hereby, exercising my similar and equal authority, sentence them to sit in the corner for two hours and compose heroic couplets honoring Christopher Columbus.
I know the drug lords have been doing a lot of this stuff, but it’s not an official religion. And if the US would go back to the pre-Obama days, when Bush really did do a lot to wipe out the drug empires and gave a lot of on the ground support, the modern savages wouldn’t have a lot of traction. The local population hates them but is scared of them, and the US isn’t giving much help with Stoner Barry.
However, in terms of colonization, Christianity brought enormous benefits to the native populations of both North and South America. Aside from not having to worry about getting your heart ripped out because you were an unimportant person but the head honcho needed your blood to water his pyramid, you got to live in a society of laws (Spain was incredibly bureaucratic, then as now) and while it may have been tedious, it certainly was better than having your heart ripped out.
Let the Apaches explain that. Just in passing, they were a horrible group and all the other Indians were afraid of them. In fact, many entered into treaties with the Spanish just to be protected from the Apaches.
Also, the Spanish did not demand that the Indians convert. The Indians, regardless of their tribe, were offered a treaty, and one of the conditions was that they listen to the preaching of Christianity. They didn’t have to accept it, but they had to listen to it to enter into the treaty. Most of them accepted it, but there were some, such as the Hopi, who listened to the preaching, didn’t accept the religion, but agreed to the treaty and lived in peace.
Since when did they start believing in God?
They dont.
That was my /s point.
Very Interesting. Thanks for the info.......................
But that's the whole point. To claim and assert jurisdiction, from as high a tribunal as these grubby, greasy little men can manage.
They'll play hell getting a wrench on the Roman Catholic Church.
Especially nauseating is the fact that these so-called proud people-of-color, non-westerners, and "indigenous pipples" who hate Europe and the West so much get everything they believe from a bunch of dead white European males, the people who gave us Renaissance humanism, the "enlightenment," rationalism, and materialism--all Western and European to the core.
Copernicus, Galileo, Erasmus, Descartes, Spinoza, Voltaire, Rousseau, Kant, Comte, Hegel, Darwin, and Marx were not people of color, non-westerners, nor born in Africa or Latin America. Yet their ideology--the most European ideology in all history--governs and rules the so-called "leaders" of the "indigenous pipples."
No African, Australian, Asian, Arctic, Pacific or "native American" civilization or philosopher ever reduced all of reality to material atoms bumping into each other; the ancient Greeks did that, and they are the ancestors of European rationalist and materialist humanism.
Even Gramsci, the man who replaced the proletariat with "people of color" as agents of the Revolution, is a dead white European male.
Why no one seems to recognize these "uncle toms" for who they really are is something I have never understood.
The Holy See is not a state. Its the Pope’s realm over the Church. The Holy See is all over the world. The Vatican is a state. Its realm is geographic. The Vatican is one of very few states that is not a member of the United Nations. They do send a priest to listen in on the UN and walk around the halls.
This is pretty confusing.
Consulting the CIA World Fact Book (LINK), you will read that: "The United States and the Holy See announced the establishment of diplomatic relations in 1984."
"The Holy See and the United States both are members of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The Holy See also is an observer to a number of international organizations of which the United States is a member, including the United Nations, Organization of American States, and World Trade Organization."
"The U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See is Kenneth F. Hackett; other principal embassy officials are listed in the Department's Key Officers List."
It seems "The Holy See" is the name of the government of the Vatican City.
Yes, yes, I know that "See" comes from "Sede" which means "Seat or Chair," and it refers to the chair of the Bishop of Rome, that is, the Pope, considered as spiritual leader.
So it seems to me that the "secular government" ought to be called "Vatican City" and the purely ecclesial organization ought to be called "Holy See" --- but that is not quite the case.
I'm somewhat cross-eyes from reading through all this stuff. I'm sure there are historic reasons and blah-blah-=blah.
I have no idea what an "Apache-Nde-Nnee" is. I'm not sure I want to know.
From my professional life, I know precisely what a "Working Group" is. It's a bunch of people stuck in an infinite loop of banal and pointless meetings, arguing passionately and at great length over meaningless minutiae and sucking up the customer's money by the millions, all at the expense of actually accomplishing anything. It may well be a group, but work is the last thing one should expect from it.
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