Posted on 01/15/2016 1:13:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind
While Donald Trump cynically maintains that he has no clue what Ted Cruz's phrase "New York values" means -- and while he scurrilously implies that Cruz has some sort of malicious, nasty feeling about New Yorkers over 9/11 -- video has now emerged of a nationally televised 1999 interview in which Trump seems completely familiar with the "New York values" to which Cruz referred.
Trump appeared on Meet The Press on October 24, 1999, where he had several exchanges with Tim Russert:
RUSSERT: Do you think gays should be allowed to be married?
TRUMP: It's something I haven't given lots of thought to. I live in New York City, there is a tremendous movement on to have and allow gay marriage. It's just something that is too premature for me to comment on.
RUSSERT: How about gays serving in the military?
TRUMP: It would not disturb me. I mean, hey, I lived in New York City and Manhattan all my life, so my views are a little bit different than if I lived in Iowa, perhaps --
Then there was this exchange:
RUSSERT: Partial birth abortion. Eliminating of abortion in the third trimester. Big issue in Washington. Would President Trump ban partial birth abortion?
TRUMP: Well, look, I'm very pro-choiceâ¦and again, it may be a little bit of a New York background, because there is some different attitude in different parts of the country, and you know, I was raised in New York, and grew up and work and everything else in New York City.
RUSSERT: But you would not ban it.
TRUMP: No ... I am pro-choice in every respect as far as it goes, but I just hate it.
Here is Cruz's description of "New York values" from last night: "everyone understands that the values in New York City are socially liberal or pro-abortion or pro- gay-marriage, focus around money and the media."
It didn't say be evil to fit in with evil, quite the contrary. Paul did say that the civil magistrate is God's minister to be a terror to evil and a servant for good. Good in the Bible is doing God's will as expressed in the Bible, i.e. no abortion, no homo-parades because no homos, no frivorce, limited government, no feminism, no taking others property by eminent domain, no bribing officials for favoritism, no greed, no course language or blasphemy...etc. I do not see Trump being a terror to what God calls evil and I do not see him being a servant to good. It seems he is too narcissistic with too many NY values to execute the office in the Romans 13 way.
I think Trump should clarify if these are his views *today*.
The interview is from 1999. Sixteen years ago. People can and do change their minds.
Don't know what he stands for anymore.
The 9-11 attacks two years after Trump gave this interview changed a lot of things. Most people have different views when in the role of the one who is responsible rather than a mere Monday morning quarterback who bears no burden of responsibility.
Trump the business mogul sounding off on social issues in a pre 9-11 world is a different man than Trump the candidate who is likely to be the leader of a crippled nation during dangerous times.
Seventeen years ago I was a different man. Deployment during OIF and two kids changed me.
Cruz and his New York values comment would play very differently in a pre 9-11 world, before the Obama disaster that this nation inflicted on itself twice.
Obama has opened more than a few eyes to the folly of “liberal enlightenment”. If some of the liberal leanings of many Americans haven’t withered during these two disastrous Obama terms we are finished.
If Trump has changed his views, I pray he has lots of company and that veteran conservatives aren’t too pig headed to accept the newly awakened to our ranks.
We will need every single willing hand to pull together to help save our country and to make America great again.
Trump is attacking a strawman as last night’s debate shows.
When Trump went on about Firefighters, Policemen and First responders, etc. during 9/11, you could clearly see from the video that Cruz was LITERALLY applauding them.
It is obvious that Cruz was not referring to these heroes.
He was referring to something else when he mentioned “New York Values”. These are LIBERAL POLITICIANS who are pro-choice, pro-gay marriage and pro-gun control. HE SAID SO.
Alas, these would include MANY Republicans in the state.
RE: Don’t know what he stands for anymore.
Well, if change of mind is going to be criteria for voting for someone, we should all worry about all other leading candidates as well — they would include BOTH Trump and Rubio.
“So I guess Trump saying Iowans are stupid was uniting?”
You have that 180 degrees wrong. Trump was actually saying that anyone that thought Iowans were stupid enough buy Carson’s knife story were stupid. Read it in context.
Well done!
Hard to argue with that!
In Trump's case, they're not even good enough to win New York.
A Trump nomination means a democrat president.
That rings true even if Trump should somehow win.
Trump is politicizing 9/11 to score political points. That is shameful.
Fair enough. I’m just doing my homework.
You can go *entertain* yourself. There was no politicizing here. Trump is a New Yorker. He saw in real time a lot of what we saw on TV.
It was a straw man argument. Ubama is better at using straw man arguments than that.
If IRS is abolished, who will collect alternate taxes?
I guess we all will be on honor system? I will drink to that hahahahaha..
So ridiculous to wish IRS will be abolished. Their function could change, but IRS will be just as ruthless in collecting every dime owed, else they can freeze your bank account just as they can now.
Digging up a 16 year old interview is the best they have?
HAHAHAHA...they are horribly desperate!
That is THE INTERVIEW, the specific interview that Cruz referred to in the debate. Those are the New York values he was referring to. Yet Trump dishonestly makes it about the nearly as old 9/11 event. Trump is showing his con man side.
So why is Rafael Cruz apologizing now?????
Breaking....
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/688136330535018497
It will be taken electronically. Straight out of your paycheck.
I do not get a paycheck. I work in the underground economy.
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