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Thursday’s Debate Was a Nightmare for the GOP Establishment
newrepublic.com ^ | Brian Beutler

Posted on 01/15/2016 3:30:23 AM PST by cotton1706

The hope was that Rubio would rise and Cruz and Trump would stumble. That didn't happen.

The defining development of the sixth Republican presidential primary debate was this: For the first time since the campaign entered its late stage, Ted Cruz was willing to skirmish with Donald Trump, and he did it more effectively than any of the dozen-plus other candidates who have tried before him.

He also made an uncharacteristic error. Halfway through the evening, the Texas senator reprised a campaign trail attack on Trump's "New York values," knowing that Trump would retaliate by characterizing it as a slander against 9/11 first responders - and it boomeranged on him.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2facedtedcruz; cruzstepsinit; elections; masterdebaterfsup; tedsspewhauntshim
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1 posted on 01/15/2016 3:30:23 AM PST by cotton1706
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2 posted on 01/15/2016 3:33:14 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: cotton1706

Mr. Goldmann Sach Cruz, who covered up the reason
he allowed the vote on SECRET ObamaTRADE is
now ‘washed up’; finished.

He will NEVER regain the Trust he had before
his ObamaTRADE vote (the first) for Goldmann Sachs
who the Senator owes, and owes, and owes.


3 posted on 01/15/2016 3:40:22 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: cotton1706

Jeb is coming on strong!!!


4 posted on 01/15/2016 3:42:50 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: cotton1706

Pretty accurate analysis. Only two men on that stage worthy of consideration.


5 posted on 01/15/2016 3:42:58 AM PST by reegs
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

And the question about Nikki’s response to the SOTU address, clearly intended to ambush Trump, didn’t go well either. His response, in which he said, “I am angry” and he took ownership of his anger, clearly resonated with the American public. There’s no doubt in my mind that Nikki’s handlers expected him to lambaste her.


6 posted on 01/15/2016 3:45:31 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Diogenesis

Unhinged? WTF? You can trust Trump, record and all, but Cruz is no better than Obama?

It sounds like DU around here sometimes.


7 posted on 01/15/2016 3:50:14 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: ManHunter
Trump is not going to lambaste someone who's self-destructing unless they attack him directly. The unprovoked attacks will be directed to those who are getting too competitive.

Trump handled the Haley situation beautifully. It seems he's evolved away from direct personal attacks on women.

8 posted on 01/15/2016 3:53:11 AM PST by grania
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To: Diogenesis
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Yep ... Ted Cruz is "finished" ... indeed, indeed, indeed ... /sarcasm-off ...


Iowa Caucus Predictions (30 GOP Delegates) : February 1, 2016

Ted Cruz ..... 40 %
Donald Trump ..... 30 %
Ben Carson ..... 10 %
Marco Rubio ..... 10 %
Chris Christy ..... 5 %
Jeb Bush ..... 5 %



New Hampshire Primary Predictions (23 GOP Delegates) : February 9, 2016

Donald Trump ..... 35 %
Ted Cruz ..... 30 %
Chris Christy ..... 10 %
Jeb Bush ..... 10 %
Marco Rubio 10 %
Ben Carson 5 %



South Carolina Primary Predictions (50 GOP Delegates) : February 20, 2016

Ted Cruz ..... 45 %
Donald Trump ..... 35 %
Chris Christy ..... 5 %
Jeb Bush ..... 5 %
Marco Rubio ..... 5 %
Ben Carson ..... 5 %



Florida Primary Predictions (99 Winner-Take-All GOP Delegates) : March 15, 2016

Ted Cruz 40 %
Donald Trump 30 %
Jeb Bush 15 %
Marco Rubio 15 %



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9 posted on 01/15/2016 3:55:08 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: ManHunter

His “I am angry!” seemed like it came from every fiber in his body...it was as brilliant a moment as has ever been given in a primary or presidential debate.

It was original, spontaneous and heartfelt. It was effective as Reagan’s “I paid for this mic” moment.

thank you Nikki for being the latest Rino to do a smackdown on the American people rather than what she was supposed to do, smackdown the lame Obama SOTU.


10 posted on 01/15/2016 3:55:30 AM PST by fingers_crossed
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To: fingers_crossed

BUMP to your post. That was pretty clear to me. It was one of multiple moments (different candidates) I cheered at my television.


11 posted on 01/15/2016 3:58:24 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Nice predictions...you must have won Powerball, too, eh?


12 posted on 01/15/2016 4:09:47 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3383913/posts?page=9#9


13 posted on 01/15/2016 4:10:22 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: cotton1706

on the New York issue, I doubt many people are actually bothered by that comment. Well, unless your from New York.


14 posted on 01/15/2016 4:12:27 AM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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To: cotton1706

Always the contrarian, I must disagree with the statement that Cruz made a mistake in his “New York values” statement.

I think it is more likely a brilliant, pre-meditated and excellent tactical thrust. Not without risk certainly - but more likely to help Cruz than hurt him in the big picture.

Why?

1. Most of America will agree with his statement - at least a huge percentage - far more than those who will be upset with it;

2. Neither the city nor the state of New York is going to vote for Cruz anyway........so their inevitable negative reaction to his statement loses nothing.

The bottom line is the statement is likely to do him more good in both getting the nomination and the general election than it will do bad.

Love to hear other Freepers thoughts on my thoughts.........


15 posted on 01/15/2016 4:13:23 AM PST by Arlis ( A "Sacred Cow" Tipping Christian)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

What is your source for those numbers?


16 posted on 01/15/2016 4:13:49 AM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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I agree. New York is the state that brought us Senator Hillary.


17 posted on 01/15/2016 4:23:02 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: rrrod

crappola.


18 posted on 01/15/2016 4:23:29 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Rubio is a liar, Jeb is worthless, Go Cruz ,Keep stirring the pot Donald.)
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To: justlittleoleme
"on the New York issue, I doubt many people are actually bothered by that comment."

I agree, but the news media is editing out the lead in to that comment which described what he was referring to in the opening, gay rights, pro abortion, wall street... It sounds worse without the preface.

19 posted on 01/15/2016 4:23:39 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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his imagination, and he’s spamming threads too


20 posted on 01/15/2016 4:25:43 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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