Cruz [Teammate]: Ted 'Identified... as a Dual Citizen...'

Breitbart ^ | 1/08/2016 | Breitbart News

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97% has repeatedly defended his eligibility to be president this week, but wondering whether his Canadian birthplace would prevent him from running for the office has been on his mind since at least childhood, a classmate of his tells CNN.

[RummyChick]

I don’t think this is the real Donald but I don’t know. Anyway, interesting quote:

Donald Jay Trump 10 hours ago

Interviewer in 2012 to Ted Cruz: “What is your understanding of how one becomes a natural born Citizen?”

Cruz responds: “Two citizen parents and born on the soil.”

Time for Cruz to end his candidacy.
Trump 2016

I want to know if this exchange really took place.

“In a campaign interview during his freshman senate race, a GOP Texas State Committee member sat down with the young candidate to ask a few poignant vetting questions, and here are the questions and answers from that interview… (Redacted information is to protect the witness at this moment, but the witness is willing to offer sworn testimony)
Interviewer: “Hello Mr. Cruz, it’s a pleasure to meet you. My name is (redacted). I am a (redacted) County GOP Precinct Chair and you have my support and vote. I have one question for you if I may?”
Cruz: “Sure, go ahead.”
Interviewer: “What is your understanding of how one becomes a natural born Citizen?”
Cruz: “Two citizen parents and born on the soil.”

[RummyChick]

I did a cursory look this morning. It appears that Canada, during 1947 to 1977, did not require you to renounce citizenship despite laws put into place about dual citizenship. At least according to one source.

Of course, she might have renounces it given the precarious situation of her husband being from Cuba.

I would not let Cruz skate on this if he was a DEM. He needs to provide docs on his mother.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks. This is the problem. How many liberal judges in the pocket of the Clintoons are there? Plus how many sleazy lawyers are core dems and would do anything to elect another Clintoon.

With that said I believe the interpretation of the constitution that grants Cruz natural citizenship. With that said this could be challenged, and we are in uncharted waters with the legality. One activist lib/commie judge can really gum up the works.

[VanDeKoik]

“I’m a bit late to this thread. What I find a bit disturbing is that he was fretting as a child about obstacles to his becoming president. At what point does a kid become power-hungry enough to decide that he should be leader of the free world?”

This is something that has been in the back of my head lately.

It’s something that seems too “rehearsed”. Or just too packaged. As if he has been told his whole life that he is God’s gift to the world, and that everyone should be lucky to be in his presence. A person that has received too much praise growing up from his parents, and sees himself as existing above everyone. And that even carries over to his supporters that constantly gush about his “brilliance”, and “piety”, but never about how he is

And then he seems to talk just like Joel Osteen, which is just eerily bizarre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYXS0mFhx20

I know some of that seems a bit unfair, but it’s just trying to verbalize just these weird vibes.

[nclaurel]

Where is it shown that Cruz mother applied for Canadian citizenship? Seems to be just speculation without some factual proof.

[VanDeKoik]

“I would not let Cruz skate on this if he was a DEM. He needs to provide docs on his mother.”

It’s just good vetting to not.

Either diffuse this bomb with 20 minutes on the timer, or cut the wrong wire at 20 seconds.

[FR_addict]

I saw some sites saying that Cruz was a citizen based on the act below:

United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790).

But it turns out this one was repealed and replaced 5 years later:
United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform rule of Naturalization; and to repeal the act heretofore passed on that subject” (January 29, 1795).

What's interesting is the first act only talks about both parents being US citizens. The second act completely repeals the first Act and again mentions both parents being citizens of the US. And specifically mentions the father: That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident of the United States:

So they considered the father's citizenship important back then. Not sure if his father was still a Cuban citizen or a Canadian citizen by then. I'd like to know why it took Ted's father 48 years to become a citizen of the USA. Was his father originally denied his citizenship because he supported Castro?

http://www.indiana.edu/~kdhist/H105-documents-web/week08/naturalization1790.html

United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform rule of Naturalization; and to repeal the act heretofore passed on that subject” (January 29, 1795).

For carrying into complete effect the power given by the constitution, to establish an uniform rule of naturalization throughout the United States:

SEC.1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any alien, being a free white person, may be admitted to become a citizen of the United States, or any of them, on the following conditions, and not otherwise: —

First. He shall have declared, on oath or affirmation, before the supreme, superior, district, or circuit court of some one of the states, or of the territories northwest or south of the river Ohio, or a circuit or district court of the United States, three years, at least, before his admission, that it was bona fide, his intention to become a citizen of the United States, and to renounce forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty whatever, and particularly, by name, the prince, potentate, state or sovereignty whereof such alien may, at that time, be a citizen or subject.

Secondly. He shall, at the time of his application to be admitted, declare on oath or affirmation before some one of the courts aforesaid, that he has resided within the United States, five years at least, and within the state or territory, where such court is at the time held, one year at least; that he will support the constitution of the United States; and that he does absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty whatever, and particularly by name, the prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, whereof he was before a citizen or subject; which proceedings shall be recorded by the clerk of the court.

Thirdly. The court admitting such alien shall be satisfied that he has resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States five years; and it shall further appear to their satisfaction, that during that time, he has behaved as a man of a good moral character, attached to the principles of the constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the same.

Fourthly. In case the alien applying to be admitted to citizenship shall have borne any hereditary title, or been of any of the orders of nobility, in the kingdom or state from which he came, he shall, in addition to the above requisites, make an express renunciation of his title or order of nobility, in the court to which his application shall be made; which renunciation shall be recorded in the said court.

SEC. 2. Provided always, and be it further enacted, That any alien now residing within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States may be admitted to become a citizen on his declaring, on oath or affirmation, in some one of the courts aforesaid, that he has resided two years, at least, within and under the jurisdiction of the same, and one year, at least, within the state or territory where such court is at the time held; that he will support the constitution of the United States; and that he does absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty whatever, and particularly by name the prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, whereof he was before a citizen or subject; and moreover, on its appearing to the satisfaction of the court, that during the said term of two years, he has behaved as a man of good moral character, attached to the constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the same; and when the alien applying for admission to citizenship, shall have borne any hereditary title, or been of any of the orders of nobility in the kingdom or state from which he came, on his moreover making in the court an express renunciation of his title or order of nobility, before he shall be entitled to such admission; all of which proceedings, required in this proviso to be performed in the court, shall be recorded by the clerk thereof.

SEC. 3. And be it further enacted, that the children of persons duly naturalized, dwelling within the United States, and being under the age of twenty-one years, at the time of such naturalization, and the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident of the United States: Provided also, That no person heretofore proscribed by any state, or who has been legally convicted of having joined the army of Great Britain during the late war, shall be admitted a citizen as foresaid, without the consent of the legislature of the state, in which such person was proscribed.

SEC. 4. And be it further enacted, That the Act intituled, “An act to establish an uniform rule of naturalization,” passed the twenty-sixth day of March, one thousand seven hundred and ninety, be, and the same is hereby repealed.

[Wissa]

Immediately after being elected to the Senate by the good people in Texas Ted Cruz started planing his campaign to the elected POTUS.

Since he was thinking about it as a kid, it looks like he didn't just start planning a campaign for the presidency after he became senator. He ran for the senate just as a necessary step to get name recognition and a reputation as a "principled conservative". I'd bet that every vote he took and every stance he took as Senator was calculated with the view of how he it might help him get the presidential contest nomination.

[RummyChick]

I would like to see Cruz as Trump’s VP since I believe Cruz can’t win on his own. But this is a time bomb that Dems will grab hold of and ride it all the way.

Trump can’t take that chance if Cruz doesn’t diffuse this.

[caww]

I stand on what I posted.

[WildHighlander57]

Bookmarking.

[RummyChick]

Didn’t Obama claim that he never thought about his British citizenship or some such thing. By the way, since his dad was a Commie Bigamist - Obama was not automatically a British citizen under the laws at that time.

I just don’t believe a man like Cruz would not have looked into or know about his own citizenship until recently.

[Ray76]

FWIW I have seen no such evidence. There is evidence that the father became a Canadian citizen, he stated so in an NPR interview.

I suspect it is disinfo designed to muddy the waters and to discredit

[sunrise_sunset]

Many kids with Cruz’s obvious ambition think that.

[sunrise_sunset]

Think about a dual citizen of Mexico and the US running and what the reaction would be here.

[Liz]

What I find a bit disturbing is the revelation that, even as a kid, Cruz was fretting about his dual citizenship being an obstacle to his becoming president. At what point does a kid become power-hungry enough to decide that he should be leader of the free world?

This is VERY disturbing.....unmasks a gross insincerity of his calculated moves. It becomes clearer that he latched onto conservatism, and is using conservatives, as a stepping stone for his deep dark secret plan to achieve power.

One pundit surmised that once this guy ever got power he'd drop conservatives like a hot potato.

[sockmonkey]

And now, it’s 4,420. Passions inflamed. Well, I’m just guessing ask am not going to read all of them.

[Wissa]

I know some of that seems a bit unfair, but it's just trying to verbalize just these weird vibes.

You're not the only one getting those vibes.

I don't find it hard to visualize him making a well-rehearsed, tearful apology for spending church donations on prostitutes.

Like you said, it seems a bit unfair, but that's the vibe I get.

[WhiskeyX]

“I can declare that I have a country called Nitzyland that occupies the 10 acres on which I live and anyone who has a username containing a “y” is a granted citizenship.”

People try that scam all of the time, but it has no validity and no application to the issue of natural born citizenship. There has to be a valid rule of law applicable to the alleged citizenship based upon an actual, meaning acted upon, allegiance to the sovereign authorizing the right to citizenship. The parents of the natural born citizen are U.S. citizens. The parents were born with U.S. citizenship, or were born with foreign citizenship which has since been lawfully and fully renounced in favor of U.S. citizenship. The child is born in the United States. The child is a native born U.S. citizen, and the child is furthermore a natural born citizen of the United States. Derivative citizenship claims through grandparents is too remote unless acted upon at birth by the parents or grandparents as guardians. Adoption of the derivative citizenship through the grandparents is of the same impact and character as naturalization with a foreign sovereign after birth.

[Grampa Dave]

BOL! Ted Cruz should take Trump advice and make all his documentation available.

He can just call up the DNC, because they have EVERYTHING, and are just keeping it nice and safe in case they need it.