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State of Jefferson supporters plan bill seeking independence from California
The Sacramento Bee ^ | January 6th, 2016 | By Alexei Koseff

Posted on 01/06/2016 8:28:59 PM PST by Mariner

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The official and duly elected Boards of Supervisors of 21 counties have voted to secede.
1 posted on 01/06/2016 8:28:59 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_%28proposed_Pacific_state%29


2 posted on 01/06/2016 8:29:34 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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I grew up in California. They’ve been trying to split the state since I was in grade school.

It will be interesting to see where this will go.


3 posted on 01/06/2016 8:30:44 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Back in the Playoffs! Sea HAWKS!)
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To: Mariner

Would make Montana the third largest state?


4 posted on 01/06/2016 8:30:47 PM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: Mariner

I wish them luck (they’re gonna need it)


5 posted on 01/06/2016 8:32:00 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Mariner; Texas Eagle
Love to see it happen.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3378887/posts

6 posted on 01/06/2016 8:33:07 PM PST by PROCON
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To: Mariner

More power to ‘em.


7 posted on 01/06/2016 8:34:02 PM PST by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
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To: Mariner

For some reason all I am seeing is 2 more liberal senators.


8 posted on 01/06/2016 8:38:29 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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"For some reason all I am seeing is 2 more liberal senators."

Not from Jefferson. No way, no how.

9 posted on 01/06/2016 8:40:39 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner

Historical reference thread here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3180512/posts


10 posted on 01/06/2016 8:45:29 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: Mariner

The article doesn’t say that, do you know that for sure?


11 posted on 01/06/2016 8:46:56 PM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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“For some reason all I am seeing is 2 more liberal senators.”

Well, as you Texans would say: “Now bless his little heart, he don’t know from where he’s speakin!” California (actually not unllike Texas as it turns out) area-wise is mostly conservative. Before the SCOTUS rulled on “one man, one vote” and we had a true bicameral legislature where the CA Senate, was not based on population, we had a reasonable check and balance and the rural counties didn’t get steamrollered by LA and SF. But since that “determination,” LA and SF have basically had their way with the state (Like you will soon with Houston, DFW and San Antonio). The new state of Jefferson would definitely be Conservative, so we would have two more Conservative Senators and the CA House delegation would be reduced in its number and the new members from Jefferson would also be Conservative. BTW you can also get a CCW permit for the asking if you live in more than half of California’s counties.


12 posted on 01/06/2016 8:51:29 PM PST by vette6387
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I still say I’d rather fight for the state and turn it back Republican.

There are many factors that prevent it, not the least of which is the RNC GOPe that won’t lift a finger for Conservatism in the state.

If we could secede from them, that would fix a lot.


13 posted on 01/06/2016 8:56:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne ((It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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To: Mariner

Those particular CA counties for the most part are quite libertarian/conservative.


14 posted on 01/06/2016 8:56:23 PM PST by yadent
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To: vette6387

From experience, because of all the Californian invading Texas, I can say there is a pronounced difference between a California conservative and a Texas conservative.


15 posted on 01/06/2016 8:59:18 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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Good to know the name is in honor of a president and not a TV series.


16 posted on 01/06/2016 9:00:35 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: beethovenfan

The problem is if we deviate from 50, here comes D.C. to give them two Rat Senators forever.


17 posted on 01/06/2016 9:06:35 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: ConservaTexan
“From experience, because of all the Californian invading Texas, I can say there is a pronounced difference between a California conservative and a Texas conservative.”

I was looking at the congressional map of Texas the other day. With the exception of the large RAT-run cities, your RATS are all along the Rio Grande, but it looks to me that the line is moving northward, so you will ultimately face the same situation with which we are faced here. California's Central Valley (excepting the weather) is very much like rural Texas. I know because I almost took a job in Graham, TX so I've seen both places. And I would suggest that the people who populate those areas are conservative. That's the area that wants to secede. I guess my point is that you in Texas had better take a look around, because what's already happened here in CA will be Texas before very many more years. I think some Texans are refusing to see what's happening, and people are moving to Texas because they think it hasn't/won't happen there. Time will tell, but I'm not betting on your survival.

18 posted on 01/06/2016 9:15:21 PM PST by vette6387
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They should be secede and be their own country


19 posted on 01/06/2016 9:19:51 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: vette6387

You’re right, California’s better.


20 posted on 01/06/2016 9:21:20 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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