Posted on 01/05/2016 1:04:07 PM PST by Kaslin
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RUSH: Look at this. Right here in my formerly nicotine-stained fingers. Politico: "Doctors Can Report Some Mentally Ill Patients to FBI Under New Gun Control Rule -- Delivering on its promise to deliver 'common sense' gun control, the Obama administration on Monday finalized a rule that enables health care providers to report the names of mentally ill patients to an FBI firearms background check system.
"The action was one of a series of steps that President Barack Obama had called for in January 2013 in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings. ... While the 1993 Brady law prohibits gun ownership by individuals who have been involuntarily committed, found incompetent to stand trial or otherwise deemed by a court to be a danger to themselves or others, federal health care privacy rules prohibited doctors and other providers from sharing information without the consent of their patients."
But now if a doctor thinks that you're wacko, they gotta call the FBI. What do you think the doctors in Manitowoc County, Wisconsin, are gonna do now? Have you seen that Making a Murderer? People have got to watch this. If I start talking about it, it will be spoiler after spoiler after spoiler. The only thing I'm gonna tell you is when you watch it -- and you will watch it -- the Avery family and friends. Don't forget this. The Avery family and friends, exactly what Washington elites think of you bitter clingers.
That's who they think you are. All of you. All of you pro-lifers. All of you common, ordinary, everyday conservatives, that's who they think you are. And I'm not exaggerating. That's who they think you are. IQs of 70, incest. I'm gonna stop there. Don't want to go anymore with spoiler alerts. So now remember what I told you way, way, way back in the early days of Obamacare and the debate, before it became law via budget reconciliation. Don't forget that, either.
Obamacare became law without one Republican vote. It was done in budget reconciliation, the only trick they would come up with to get it passed. This is a real scary thing. Empowering doctors to report anybody they think is mentally ill to the FBI? How many of you, you all have a family out there, there's at least one in your family you think's nuts, right? Some of you have even more than one that you think is nuts. Some of you have people in your own family you would commit if you could. As Ross Perot once famously said, "We've all got the crazy aunt up in the attic, Larry."
Well, now some doctor, almost responsible and required to report the mentally disturbed person to the FBI. When the government has complete control of your health care, they own you. And that's why Obama and the left want and wanted socialized medicine. 'Cause once they have that, they can control everything you do. They can control what you eat. They can control every aspect of your life, because they can assign a financial value to it, thereby claim that the way you live is high risk and deny you health coverage.
So you have to change the way you live, change the things you do in order to qualify. They've got you by the shorts, folks, and this is exactly why they want it. It isn't about better health. It isn't about treatment. It isn't about affordable insurance. It's about total control of the country. So here comes an executive order empowering, requiring doctors to report mentally ill people to the FBI. And then what? What happens then? Well, the FBI can do whatever they want. Whatever they come in and do, how you gonna stop 'em? It's the FBI, for crying out loud. Federal law enforcement. What are you gonna do? You are under their power at that point.
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RUSH: This doctors reporting patients who are mentally ill jogged my memory. So I went to the encyclopedia of the World Wide Web, and that's RushLimbaugh.com. My website is a veritable encyclopedia, especially about items discussed on this program. Lo and behold, you knew this all sounded familiar. Back on January 16th of 2013 (it's almost three years ago), I predicted this vis-a-vis Obamacare, because three years ago we reported on the story that the Regime or the administration had deputized gun-snitch doctors.
This story three years ago was about doctors, under the tenets of Obamacare... If you were listening, you'll remember this. Doctors were being ordered, instructed to talk to patients and get information from them about gun ownership, where the guns are in their house if they have them, who has access to the guns in their house, and where the ammunition is kept. Three years ago, doctors were told (quote, "permitted") to do this. Doctors were permitted to ask their patients these questions about guns. It essentially is deputizing doctors as agents of the state.
So I knew that Obama using doctors rang a bell.
I knew remembered this.
And, lo and behold, that's what I remembered. That's what we found with a scan of RushLimbaugh.com three years ago. So now, today, Obama is allowing and even demanding that doctors report mentally ill patients to the FBI. You know this is a common tactic in communist and totalitarian countries. It was famously used in the Soviet Union. It's still used in Cuba, and it is used in communist China. The way it works is, anybody that disagrees with the regime is labeled mentally ill or can be labeled mentally ill if they express a point of view that objects to the ruling government's point of view.
I'll give you a great example. That would be climate change. You have no doubt heard all of the vitriol and anger aimed at people who don't believe in man-made global warming; they're called "deniers." Others on the left have proposed that they be shut up, that they be denied the opportunity to speak and comment on various websites like Facebook, Twitter, you name it. It's not a stretch for someone to claim they are mentally ill. "They do not understand. They pose a great risk to their neighborhoods and their communities and the world because they don't understand the dangers of climate change.
"That is a mental illness." You get a doctor to claim somebody who thinks that climate change is no big deal, is mentally ill, and who knows what can happen to 'em? They'll commit them or whatever and get them out of the circulation of the mainstream. Do not think this is beyond the stretch of the imagination. This is who these people are. Remember, they're not interested in debating anybody. They're not interested in a debate in the arena of ideas with public opinion determining the winner.
There is no alternative point of view, and there should not be one that's justified and permitted, as far as radical leftists are concerned. So it's not a stretch here. So you go from three years ago to doctors being permitted, as part of Obamacare... This is part of qualifying for Obamacare. Doctors ask you where your guns are in your house, where the ammo is, how hard is it to get to the guns that you have, and they must report that. Now doctors can report anybody they claim to be mentally ill, to the FBI.
What do you think's gonna happen to a doctor...? Let's just pick one. Doctor Snerdley decides to inform the FBI that some patient of his who happens to be a political opponent of the Regime is mentally ill. Do you think that doctor might be rewarded somehow, for getting an enemy of the state off the street by reporting them as mentally ill? It's not far beyond what is legitimately possible here. And I know most people, when presented with what I've just described, say, "Come on, Rush! Don't be silly. That's absolutely stupid, ridiculous, would never happen."
Well, 20 years ago, 25 years ago there are things that are routine today that everybody back then thought would never happen. Today they're routine. So don't say that they could never happen. The fact of the matter is, there's a political party today that wants things like this to happen. They're beginning to happen. What are you...? A doctor can report mentally ill people to the FBI. For crying out loud, doctors can take surveys of their patients on gun control, gun ownership and so forth and so on.
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RUSH: Try this headline, Washington Free Beacon: "Obama: I’m ‘Confident’ My Gun Control Measures Won’t Violate Second Amendment." Really? You are confident? Isn't that something that either is or isn't? Either violates it or it doesn't. What do you mean, you're confident? You're gonna wait for some judicial review panel to decide? It means it's up for grabs? Which means he is violating the Constitution, the Second Amendment, and is happy to be doing so. That's the whole point of the Obama administration to blow up that document. The whole point of the Obama administration is to render the Constitution something akin to a relic that's out of touch and no longer relevant. There's no question that's the purpose of this administration, when you get right down to it.
Greetings, and welcome back, folks, great to have you, Rush Limbaugh here at 800-282-2882, e-mail address, ElRushbo@eibnet.com.
Did you see the story out of California that came with the dawn of the new year? California, governor Jerry Brown signed it into law, just enacted and signed into law legislation that allows family members to report unstable gun owner relatives to the police. And then when that happens, the police have to come and take that person's guns away from them. So in California it's been signed into law. Family members are now allowed, quote, unquote, to report unstable gun owner relatives. So if you happen to live in a family that's mostly lib and you're a conservative and you've got guns, they can report you as unstable. And the definition of your instability is that you have a gun. And at that point the cops are required to pay you a visit.
Meanwhile, the attorney general Loretta Lynch has received a letter from John Culberson, Republican, Texas, member of the House. He's chairman of the appropriations subcommittee that oversees the Justice Department. He has warned Loretta Lynch against enforcing Obama's new gun laws. Regulations, I should say. He said: "I have formally notified Attorney General Lynch that I will aggressively protect our Second Amendment rights using Congress' power of the purse. I notified the attorney general that if the Department of Justice attempted to create new restrictions on our Constitutional rights that I would use every tool at my disposal to immediately restrict their access to federal funding."
In other words, he said he's gonna use the power of the purse. It means he's gonna defund or hold up the Department of Justice budget. Now, this is a Republican. His name again is John Culberson. We have to keep in mind here that the threat might well be empty, given -- I mean, the Republican leadership, the media goes crazy on this, they might withdraw it, but at least Congressman Culberson has at least advanced the idea that with this Regime overreach, it's entirely possible he could lead an effort to restrict the full funding of the budget of the Department of Justice.
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Taking away a constitutional right without due process should not make it past the first judge.
IIRC, Clinton signed an executive granting environmental groups immunity from suit. Something like that — I bet you know for sure. It came to mind after seeing your comment here about doctor’s being liable. Perhaps something?
The Fedgov has installed itself as the masters of the people instead of the servants of the public.
HIPAA does not assure your PHI data confidentiality.
1. HIPAA does not protect your personal health information from being disseminated by 8000+ different Healthcare entities.
Sharing YOUR patient Healthcare records is a 2+ Billion dollar a year business.
Data brokers share every detail about patients without rigorous requirement to ensure patient data identity anonymization.
See Harvard ’ s: thedatamap.org for details.
2. Oboma signed an Exec Order in Sept 2015 to create an interagency Behavioral Database Stazi dossier of all citizens.
(To better serve us, of course).
3. All Internet service providers, cellphone companies, Silicon valley app corporations provide user records to federal government law enforcement, security intelligence agencies.
FReepers will be in good company on the flashbang SWAT RED list
Obamacare became law without one Republican vote. It was done in budget reconciliation, the only trick they would come up with to get it passed. This is a real scary thing. Empowering doctors to report anybody they think is mentally ill to the FBI?
If one gets reported to the FBI where and how do you go to appeal to get your Constitutional rights and maybe even your personal property back which were taken without legal judicial review much less a jury trial?
Isn't this the very definition of a "Bill of Attainder"?...
Bill of Attainder Definition: A legislative act that singles out an individual or group for punishment without a trial.
The Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3 provides that: "No Bill of Attainder" or ex post facto Law will be passed."
Gun control was "baked in the cake" with Obamacare.
"And, lo and behold, that's what I remembered. That's what we found with a scan of RushLimbaugh.com three years ago. So now, today, Obama is allowing and even demanding that doctors report mentally ill patients to the FBI. You know this is a common tactic in communist and totalitarian countries. It was famously used in the Soviet Union. It's still used in Cuba, and it is used in communist China.
"The way it works is, anybody that disagrees with the regime is labeled mentally ill or can be labeled mentally ill if they express a point of view that objects to the ruling government's point of view. "I'll give you a great example. .... That would be climate change."
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RUSH WAS RIGHT! Obama DEPUTIZING Doctors As 'Agents Of The State'
Clinton, William Jefferson; Executive Order 12986 dated 1/19/96. URL: http://www.epa.gov/docs/fedrgstr/EPA-GENERAL/1996/January/Day-22/pr-765.html.
Selective indemnification like this is IMO a serious violation of 14th Amendment equal protection.
Patients should be able to ask the doctors all the same questions for so to even the playing field.
I guess Abraham Lincoln would have lost his guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Rutledge
I am also a physician. More troubling than having doctors report certain patients to the FBI, is the fact that the federal government now has access to everyone’s medical records. They can search all records for key words like Xanax, Risperdal, Methadone, Percocet, etc. and then investigate the individuals and/or the doctors.
There might be one way to deal with it. The EO will cause many to have a reasonable fear against going to doctors. Some family members of a deceased relative might try litigating based on that, but much publicity extra support would also be needed (maybe including Congress).
Exactly.
The right way to handle people suspected to be dangerous mental cases is to have someone who is really close to them to bring charges which would be heard by a judge.
With competent representation for the defendant.
What makes all of this so difficult, and beyond a simple executive order, is that in almost every single mass shooting, the first thing you hear is all of those close to the shooter on TV telling allfor the world to hear, “He was such a nice boy. I never dreamed he would ot something like this”.
So simple solutions will not fix it.
What we really need is some way to find out who has bombs under their bed, plans drawn up, etc. That would reduce the number of these incidents.
But the truth is that there are no perfect solutions that result in zero incidents.
“Better ten guilty go free than one man be falsely imprisoned” will forever be a valid and decent principle.
I have a schematic of where healthcare info from medical records goes.
I would love for someone to post it.
I cannot.
Someone freepmail me please
Remember there is NO HIPPA with the federal government or state with Obamacare
Hasn’t that been the law for a while now?
That link gave me “Page Not Found” plus the explanation that they were improving things so they could be found more easily. Want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
That link gave me “Page Not Found” plus the explanation that they were improving things so they could be found more easily. Want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
Anyway, thanks for verifying my sketchy memory. What’s kept Zero from doing the same for his doctor-snitches? Do you suppose it’s buried in the EO? Or does he hate that much anyones who actually stand by their oaths and try to save lives?
Well gosh, maybe then you can go look for it yourself if you want it so badly, instead of sitting and whining expecting others to do it for you.
I seem to remember something about that...
[... from years ago...]
Psychiatric Manual DSM-IV-TR Labels free Thinkers, non conformers as Mentally Ill or ODD
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2611730/posts
It is now confirmed by USWGO News that the DSM-IV-TR Manuallabels free thinkers, non conformers, civil disobedient advocates, those that question authority, and people considered hostile toward the government (aka Oath keepers and local militias) as mentally ill with the illness titled ‘oppositional defiant disorder’ or ODD. [snip]
So, if you are a small-government citizen, you are too ‘mentally ill’ to own a gun.
Ted Cruz’s campaign: ‘Obama wants your guns’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3380042/posts
And please note post 38.
Lock up the crazy people. It’s no more of a “denial of liberty” than prohibiting unconvicted ‘person suspected of having mental issues’ from owning guns.
Didn’t the Sandy Hook shooter’s shrink have foreknowledge of this attack? Or am I confusing it with another case in California or Colorado?
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