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The Oregon militia standoff shouldn't end in bloodshed
Hot Air.com ^ | January 3, 2016 | TAYLOR MILLARD

Posted on 01/03/2016 4:13:57 PM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/03/2016 4:13:57 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A plant from the government will fire the first shot at the police. Just sayin’....


2 posted on 01/03/2016 4:15:49 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Trumpee Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: Kaslin

If the government can take years to help Veterans, then they can take years to work through this peacefully.


3 posted on 01/03/2016 4:18:51 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin
Less than 1% of Americans sympathize with the notion that the Bundys and their friends have the right to take and use taxpayer-owned land.

Their supposedly "Constitutional" theory about their "right" to claim land they do not own is laughable.

Anyone who thinks this is a hill to die on is a mark.

4 posted on 01/03/2016 4:24:04 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

IT IS NOT FEDERAL LAND.


5 posted on 01/03/2016 4:25:21 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Kaslin
But it will.

They have the wrong skin color.

6 posted on 01/03/2016 4:26:26 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The future must not belong to those who deny the true nature of Islam.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Yep, just like in Waco and Ruby Ridge.


7 posted on 01/03/2016 4:27:23 PM PST by D Rider
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To: Kaslin

The same hate-filled trolls who infested the comments sections during the Bundy ranch incident are showing up again in the comments sections in the MSM articles/sites on this one. Sometimes they are even saying exactly the same thing. Such as calling the ranchers who lease federal lands ‘welfare queens’ and other identical phrasing. Odd. Who hires them?

There is a desperate need to investigate the BLM and its land deals, among other things.

Maybe this will bring attention to them. During the Bundy standoff one real estate agent had a YouTube video concerning his researches -— he was just looking for land to buy/sell. He found one ten-acre piece in the middle of the desert -— no structures on it, no water -— that the BLM bought for $700,000 from some business entity that he then could not trace.

So if ‘Occupy’ could get all that happy admiring coverage, why not these guys?

Never mind.


8 posted on 01/03/2016 4:30:36 PM PST by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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This is where authorities need to show patience, and not do anything which ends up endangering the lives of anyone. Bundy's group isn't hurting people, and, at worst, is guilty of trespassing. Yes, they're armed but that doesn't mean SWAT needs to go rolling into the refuge or a drone be used to end the standoff. That would be the worst thing to happen, and bring back memories of Waco and Ruby Ridge. Federal and local authorities will just have to wait out Ammon Bundy and the rest of the occupiers, until they decide to leave. It may take a while, but it's well worth it if no lives are lost. Bundy's group needs to go, but having it happen through a haze of gun smoke and bodies is a bad idea.

Bingo.
9 posted on 01/03/2016 4:30:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Hildy

Yes, actually it is. Denying it - even in all caps - doesn’t change the fact.


10 posted on 01/03/2016 4:31:22 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Kaslin

Neither should have Waco...


11 posted on 01/03/2016 4:31:40 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: wideawake

Go back to sleep.


12 posted on 01/03/2016 4:32:21 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Kaslin

The Constitution is pretty clear. The Feds were never supposed to maintain control of lands or structures beyond those that are necessary for them to perform the functions enumerated in the Constitution. READ THE FEDERALIST. Control of land is ABSOLUTE CONTROL. Jurisdiction is POWER. Central power is exactly what the Constitution was trying to PREVENT.


13 posted on 01/03/2016 4:32:27 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: squarebarb

The problem is that the feds control far too much land.

In the case of federal lands, the feds themselves are the welfare queens who hold land that produces no revenue. If the land were in private hands it might be productive in the sense that it produces revenue.


14 posted on 01/03/2016 4:33:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Hildy

Unfortunately, a lot of people believe the news media, Hildy.
I think slime bucket Ron Wyden is behind these false news reports.
He, Merkley and the Gov. governor need to go.


15 posted on 01/03/2016 4:33:28 PM PST by doc maverick
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To: wideawake

Actually, it is not because its mere existence as de facto Federal lands without a need to fulfill Constitutional duties is clearly unlawful. The patriots in Nevada and Oregon are doing a great service by focusing national attention on this seldom considered issue.


16 posted on 01/03/2016 4:36:28 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: cripplecreek
It is much tougher to live off the land without any access to trade or commerce than most people think.

As long as the Feds maintain a tight perimeter, most of these guys will get very tired of playacting as frontiersmen after a few weeks.

17 posted on 01/03/2016 4:38:08 PM PST by wideawake
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http://savethehammonds.com/

Please sign the petition. Thanks.


18 posted on 01/03/2016 4:39:05 PM PST by MarMema
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To: wideawake

A political solution is preferable and there is at least one candidate for president who wants to sell off these BLM lands or turn them back over to the states.


19 posted on 01/03/2016 4:41:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: wideawake

Depends on who is better at handling snake bites and giant spiders.


20 posted on 01/03/2016 4:41:36 PM PST by doc maverick
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