Posted on 12/21/2015 9:31:06 AM PST by 11th_VA
On Sunday, The Blaze reported that former Rep. Joe Walsh, R-Ill., said the GOP is on the cusp of a revolution and the third American revolution has begun. He also warned that the "revolution" could get violent.
"I think that we've begun a third American revolution," he told The Blaze. "I think people who recoil against both parties and believe in freedom are finally rising up. They're angry -I mean, look at [Republican frontrunner Donald] Trump - and they want to do something about it. I think we're at the beginning of this, and I think you're going to see it play out in the Republican Party because there could be a split in the Republican Party."
Walsh said that conservatives, Tea Party members and grassroots activists need to start by cleansing the GOP. If that fails, he said, a new political party or movement could be on the horizon. Many grassroots activists -- those Walsh refers to as "revolutionaries" -- are extremely upset with the Party, especially after the GOP-led Congress gave President Obama everything he wanted in a recent budget deal.
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"Remember, revolution is a scary term. It implies violence; it implies open rebellion. People shouldn't be afraid because initially we're going to use the political system in this revolt to try to fight back."
"It's not going to get violent at first, but look, the two prior revolutions we had got violent - the American Revolution and the Civil War," he added. "Our founders believed that it may take violence to take back our country every now and then."
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So the fall for a would-be autocrat because he makes vague and flexible promises to fix it?
“money”
They have Euros, yen, ADR shares of foreign companies, etc.
The US has sufficient oil and natural gas.
In Argentina, the farmers were made into sharecroppers by their government.
The Great Depression: An Introduction
The New Deal: A Brief Overview
The Stock Market Crash of October 1929
In late October 1929 the stock market crashed, wiping out 40 percent of the paper values of common stock. When the stock market crashed in 1929, it didn’t happen on a single day. Instead, the stock market continued to plummet over the course of a few days setting in motion one of the most devastating periods in the history of the United States.
The most significant events started on Black Thursday, October 24, 1929. On that day, nearly 13 million shares of stock were traded. It was a record number of stock trades for the U.S. J.P. Morgan and a few other bankers attempted to bail out the banking system using their own money. They were unsuccessful. Their move led to a slight increase in stock price on Saturday, October 26. But over the weekend many investors lost faith in the stocks and decided to sell their shares.
When the markets reopened on Monday, October 28, 1929, another record number of stocks were traded and the stock market declined more than 22%. The situation worsened yet again on the infamous Black Tuesday, October 29, 1929, when more than 16 million stocks were traded. The stock market ultimately lost $14 billion that day.
The stock market crash crippled the American economy because not only had individual investors put their money into stocks, so did businesses. When the stock market crashed, businesses lost their money. Consumers also lost their money because many banks had invested their money without their permission or knowledge.
Even after the stock market collapse, however, politicians and industry leaders continued to issue optimistic predictions for the nation’s economy. But the Depression deepened, confidence evaporated and many lost their life savings. By 1933 the value of stock on the New York Stock Exchange was less than a fifth of what it had been at its peak in 1929. Business houses closed their doors, factories shut down and banks failed. Farm income fell some 50 percent. By 1932 approximately one out of every four Americans was unemployed. According to historian Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. the most critical reasons for this economic collapse can be summarized as:
1) Management’s disposition to maintain prices and inflate profits while holding down wages and raw material prices meant that workers and farmers were denied the benefits of increases in their own productivity. The consequence was the relative decline of mass purchasing power. As goods flowed out of the expanding capital plant in ever greater quantities, there was proportionately less and less cash in the hands of buyers to carry the goods off the market. The pattern of income distribution, in short, was incapable of long maintaining prosperity.2) Seven years of fixed capital investment at high rates had “overbuilt†productive capacity (in terms of existing capacity to consume) and had thus saturated the economy. The slackening of the automotive and building industries was symptomatic. The existing rate of capital formation could not be sustained without different governmental policies – policies aimed not at helping those who had money to accumulate more but at transferring money from those who were letting it stagnate in savings to those who would spend it.3) The sucking off into profits and dividends of the gains of technology meant the tendency to use excess money for speculation, transforming the Stock Exchange from a securities market into a gaming-house.4) The stock market crash completed the debacle. After Black Thursday, what rule was safe except Sauve qui peut? And businessmen, in trying to save themselves, could only wreck their system; in trying to avoid the worst, they rendered the worst inevitable. By shattering confidence, the crash knocked out any hope of automatic recovery.5) In sum, the federal government had encouraged tax policies that contributed to over-saving, monetary policies that were expansive when prices were rising and deflationary when prices began to fall, tariff policies that left foreign loans as the only prop for the export trade, and policies toward monopoly which fostered economic concentration, introduced rigidity into the markets and anaesthetized the price system. Representing the businessmen, the federal government had ignored the dangerous imbalance between farm and business income, between the increase in wages and the increase in productivity. Representing the financiers, it had ignored irresponsible practices in the securities market. Representing the bankers, it had ignored the weight of private debt and the profound structural weaknesses in the banking and financial system. Seeing all problems from the viewpoint of business, it had mistaken the class interest for the national interest. The result was both class and national disaster.
And this lack of organization is why we free patriots will get slaughtered. Nevertheless, we must fight for all is lost if we don’t.
Someone comes at you with violent intent...will you die passively or answer in kind?
A revolution of the proletariat? Really? That looks more to me like a list of unionized and government "workers," traditionally Democrats. So you are offering echoes of Karl Marx on FR? Gosh, As if the entrepreneurs, independent tinkerers, resource prospectors, and researchers had nothing to do with it!
Get a grip.
The 16th amendment, which facilitated and funded today’s socialism, is just as evil. That is tough one, which is more evil the 16 th or the 17 th amendment?
A secession of many States would be the best thing right now. Most workable solution.
Lady you really need to get a grip....unless you have a million in your banking account and living high on the hog, while the rest of us are supporting your ‘nice’ life!!!!
I’m pretty sure the Article V convention is going to start in January. I haven’t been keeping up with the details, but it looks like they’re going to try. I just hope they make the most of the opportunity.
A lot of people on this site cant even take Trump calling to pause Muslim immigration or him calling the press “scum”.
I seriously doubt most of them could handle an actual shooting conflict where they could very well find themselves shooting another American because of political differences.
That type of revolution is no joke, and is best left to platitudes and metaphor.
Let's see, I'm not a lady, I don't live high on the hog, I've been an engineer creating new products that saved three factories and an entire division of a Fortune 200 company, and in the process worked side by side with welders, electricians, and millwrights, having DONE all of those skills myself. When there was a need to dig toxic half-gelled plasticizers out of a shredded oven full of fiberglass before it rained and caused a regulatory problem, did I call housekeeping and tell them to do it? No. That was me in there digging it out with my bare hands if necessary.
Screw you. You have no idea what makes an economy run.
Today I do research that involves hazardous and arduous labor no illegal alien farmworker is even allowed to do in my State. Why? The goal is to save our economy from environmental regulation. I did it for free, working six days a week at hours that would kill a lot of people for eighteen years costing myself $2.5 million in lost income.
So this GUY, who made things happen for the workers who depended upon him, creating jobs and paying taxes that feed your precious unionized slackers (of which there are few worse than firemen) calls you a vicious flaming idiot. I suggest you take your Marxist drivel elsewhere, as I am going to use it to embarrass you as the whim arises.
We see all over the world how fragile civilization is. If we don't put up barriers, assimilate US citizens and send non-citizens back home, and clean out the DC and judicial sewer, nothing's going to stop our self-destruction as a civilization.
ok, so you work for a living, wow, that’s impressive...at least we don’t have to support you, and with the rest of your resume, you should know who I was talking about then, so since you have ‘dug out with my bare hands if necessary’ should know how hard it is to make a living out here...and you still don’t have a clue....
and if you don’t like what my opinion is, which this still at this moment is a free country, which some in my family have fought and died for, will have the right to express my opinion, so you take your ‘commie’ remarks and you know what you can do with them!!!
Revolution is a bad idea unless and until we have exhausted all peaceful attempts to restore free government. It is what our Founders attempted, and we should do the same.
“Free Government” is my term for government that respects unalienable rights and lawmaking with the consent of the governed, as per our Declaration.
The only possible way to restore free government is through, as you say, an Article V Convention.
The Left is fast shutting down all opposition; there is little time to convene.
There is a mistake in thinking that the fed doesn’t control all businesses. Private enterprise is not the problem; the federal behemoth controls all. Harley, do you honestly think any business, bank, or Wall Street merchant has control of the DC empire?? Read some history. He who has the guns, aka the military, controls any and all. Wall Street, banks, and private enterprises don’t have guns to enforce their will. Why is this so complicated for some to understand? Do you remember when BO took over General Motors and installed his bud as CEO?
Absolutely. Repeal 17th Amendment.
Why, because I don't agree with your communo-fascist shilling for a would be dictator like Donald Trump?
and if you don't like what my opinion is, which this still at this moment is a free country, which some in my family have fought and died for, will have the right to express my opinion, so you take your 'commie' remarks and you know what you can do with them!!!
I called them that because that's exactly what they are both historically and politically today. Yes, you are free to express communist opinions in this country, but not on this PRIVATE forum. There isn't a fireman, cop, hands-on plumber, or carpenter in this country that has built an Apple, US Steel, or 3M. Not a one has worked out the math to put a man on the moon or written the software to analyze a DNA sequence. Without the inventors, researchers, and risk takers who did build those companies your precious unions would be clawing in the dirt with their bare hands. You have no idea what makes an economy run.
It takes lots of people, some who wear gloves and some who wear ties. Drop your 'revolution of the proletariat' crap and open your eyes. Maybe some day you'll even start to think.
Very well said!
WE STUMP FOR TRUMP
AND CANNOT LOSE WITH CRUZ.
THE TWO ON A TICKET WILL SHOW WHERE TO STICK IT
AMERICA WANTS JUSTICE FOR HER COUNTRY AND PEOPLES.
DESTROY ALL WHO WISH HER DAMAGE...ALL OF THEM!! NO PUNISHMENT IS TOO SEVERE!
Biding our time until the opportunity at the ballot box is played. WARNING: ANY SHENANIGANS SEEN WILL BE SO NOTED AND ACTED UPON!
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