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Trump Backed Amnesty For Illegal Aliens Only Last June
Investors Business Daily ^ | 12/17/2015 | Editorial

Posted on 12/18/2015 4:01:41 AM PST by expat_panama

...he was for amnesty before he was against it...

[snip]

...from the No. 1 defender of deportation. At the end of June, speaking to the press in Chicago and after saying he "heard you probably have 30 million" illegal aliens in America, Trump contended:

"You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that. But the bad ones, and there are bad ones, you have to get out, and you have to get them out fast."

[snip]

...Trump, interviewed by Newsmax's Ron Kessler, blasted Mitt Romney's "crazy policy of self-deportation." It was "maniacal," he said, contending it cost the Republican "all of the Latino vote" and adding "he lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country."

Trump told Kessler that the Republicans must develop comprehensive immigration reform "to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful, productive citizens of this country."

[snip]

..."The Democrats didn't have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren't mean-spirited about it. ... What they were is they were kind."

[snip]

Trump sneered, "Jeb (Bush) is a very nice person" and "Jeb said when they come across the southern border, they come as an act of love." But Trump's reference to immigrants, legal and illegal, as "people wanting to be wonderful, productive citizens of this country" sounds awfully similar.

"I have a very hard-line position,"... ..."People that have come into our country illegally, they have to go."

"They have to go" is quite a flipflop from the "you have to give them a path" position that Trump took only five and a half months ago.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesia; amnesty; economy; evolved; flipflop; forbeforeagainst; foritbeforeagainstit; illegals; investing; massamnesia; mittromney; rino; rinotrump; romney; sheepwolf; trump; wolfsheep
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To: wideawake; Amntn; RitaOK; Liz; AuntB

LOL....funny to see you use the word ‘fad’, against Trump, with Cruz in the same sentence.

Trump has been saying the same things he’s saying now, since 1988 and, repeatedly, in his many books, over the past two+ decades.

Maybe the frosh, career politician/govt employee Senator is the actual ‘fad’. Btw, what payroll, for thousands, has CRuz ever had to personally cover?


101 posted on 12/18/2015 8:46:03 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Jane Long
Trump has been saying the same things he’s saying now, since 1988

He was a a Democrat a few months ago.

in his many books

It's cute that you think he wrote those books.

His last big political book (written entirely by himself, of course) touted the acumen and qualities of . . . Jesse Ventura.

102 posted on 12/18/2015 9:05:36 AM PST by wideawake
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To: RC one

Which part of what I posted is “Complete BS?” Was it the part about some losing their critical thinking or the part of it not being typical of Conservatives?


103 posted on 12/18/2015 9:21:50 AM PST by refreshed
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To: wideawake

It’s cute that you’re in denial, and all in for your gal Hellary.


104 posted on 12/18/2015 10:13:45 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Jane Long

You can’t refute the facts, so you might as well make some up, Trump-style.


105 posted on 12/18/2015 10:50:53 AM PST by wideawake
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To: pas

I totally have no idea what you just said.


106 posted on 12/18/2015 10:56:52 AM PST by nikos1121 ("Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."-- Golda Meir)
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To: circlecity

“Even as recently as a couple of months ago when the issue of Syrian “refugees” came up, Trump said of course we should accept the victim refugees and in less than a week he reversed himself on this.”

That’s not how I recall what happened. He was pressed in an interview that the US should take some since other nations were. He unenthusiastically said ok we can probably take some. The next day he reversed after reconsideration. One minor slip which he quickly fixed.


107 posted on 12/18/2015 11:00:53 AM PST by ironman
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To: wideawake; Jane Long

It’s cute that you think he wrote those books.
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So you are saying someone came along and wrote a book with his own views and put Trump’s name on it and Trump went along with it?

Okay...


108 posted on 12/18/2015 11:04:46 AM PST by Amntn
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To: ironman
"That’s not how I recall what happened. ...One minor slip which he quickly fixed."

I any event, after this monstrosity of a spending bill that just got rammed through, I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that Trump may be the last hope we have. The entire Washington scene is just too hopelessly corrupt. I still have my doubts on Trump but I don't see a viable alternative. If he's for real, then GREAT. If he's been a phony all along, well, I don't see how we'd be any worse than with any of the rest of the corrupt phonies.

109 posted on 12/18/2015 11:21:05 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Helicondelta

“The path that Trump is talking about is for the illegals to go back to their countries and apply from there.”

Precisely right. And anyone on this forum that says otherwise is just as bad as the msm by spreading misinformation.


110 posted on 12/18/2015 11:22:40 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Amntn
So you are saying someone came along and wrote a book with his own views and put Trump's name on it and Trump went along with it?

No, I'm saying that his PR people interviewed some ghostwriters, picked one they liked, the ghostwriter met with him for a few supervised conversations, fleshed out a book generally based on those conversations, submitted it to Trump's PR firm and his publisher to review, they edited it, and then published it.

111 posted on 12/18/2015 11:57:12 AM PST by wideawake
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To: refreshed

What part of “complete BS” wasn’t clear? The complete part or the BS part?


112 posted on 12/18/2015 5:25:31 PM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: RC one; All

Why is civil discourse impossible on this site anymore?


113 posted on 12/18/2015 8:20:45 PM PST by refreshed
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To: refreshed

I don’t know. Maybe it’s partly because some people are broad brush smearing the people who support Donald Trump as being intellectually lacking or unconservative?


114 posted on 12/18/2015 8:37:02 PM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: wideawake

LMAO! Nice calling citizens who support a man for POTUS who says what many are thinking and saying. The man is fighting the media and he’s the only candidate who is doing so.


115 posted on 12/18/2015 8:40:51 PM PST by Twink
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To: libbylu

Worse than Obama? Really? Now I’ve read it all on a conservative website.

You are delusional.


116 posted on 12/18/2015 8:42:33 PM PST by Twink
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Well said.


117 posted on 12/18/2015 8:44:36 PM PST by Twink
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To: Twink
Oh no, I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.

The most important thing to me is making sure that morons who can't think things through have a safe space where no one can tell them unpleasant truths.

118 posted on 12/18/2015 8:55:40 PM PST by wideawake
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To: RC one

Some might just find it difficult to believe Trump changed his mind on so many things so fast. Especially when political expediency is a possibility. Now, don’t get me wrong, I am enjoying what Trump has brought to the political scene. That said, why should I trust Trump to do what he says he is going to do? I wish I had an answer to this question.


119 posted on 12/18/2015 9:00:10 PM PST by refreshed
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To: refreshed
"Some might just find it difficult to believe Trump changed his mind on so many things so fast. Especially when political expediency is a possibility. Now, don't get me wrong, I am enjoying what Trump has brought to the political scene. That said, why should I trust Trump to do what he says he is going to do? I wish I had an answer to this question."

The answer is simple - you can't. He's been caught lying too many times.

I've had Trump supporters write these lies off as exaggerations or hyperbole. But the real problem is that the man repeats things he knows aren't true, simply because we want to hear them. That's not leadership. That's not conservatism.

I understand where his support comes from. With every betrayal from the GOP leadership, it's tempting to yield to fantasies about burning it all down. But I'm not willing to burn down my country just to spite the GOPe - I love America more than I despise them.
120 posted on 12/19/2015 6:43:06 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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