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Cruz: Middle East was more secure with Hussein, Gadhafi
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/10/15 | Ryan Lovelace

Posted on 12/10/2015 2:29:07 PM PST by Isara

GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz said Thursday that the Middle East was more secure when key dictators were still in power, and said too many Democrats and Republicans have supported toppling Middle Eastern governments to the benefit of the United States' enemies.

"Was the world, in fact, in the Middle East, a more secure place when Saddam Hussein was in power, when Moammar Gadhafi was in power, and when [Bashar] Assad wasn't fighting for his life in Syria?" asked MSNBC's Joe Scarborough.

"Of course it was," Cruz answered. "That's not even a close call."

Cruz said Gadhafi did bad things but had worked with the United States and "was actively cooperating in hunting down and stopping radical Islamic terrorists." The Texas senator said Gadhafi's ouster has turned Libya into a "chaotic warzone ruled by radical Islamic terrorists."

"We need to focus on killing bad guys," Cruz said. "What has been a mistake, and we've seen a consistent mistake in foreign policy is far too often, we've seen Democrats and a lot of establishment Republicans in Washington get involved in toppling Middle Eastern governments. And it ends up benefiting the bad guys. It ends up handing them over to radical Islamic terrorists."

Cruz ranks first in the Washington Examiner's newest GOP presidential power rankings.


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1 posted on 12/10/2015 2:29:08 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara

Exactly. Strong leaders are sometimes needed to do the killing that “good” people won’t do. The islamo followers need to be contained.


2 posted on 12/10/2015 2:34:01 PM PST by soycd
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To: Isara
Cruz: Middle East was more secure with Hussein, Gadhafi

And let us not forget the Shah of Iran. Iran was not an Islam Lunatic religious nut country while the Shah ruled it, but thanks to Jimmy Carter, the entire Middle east has been destabilized.

Jimmy Carter set the stage for Nuclear Armageddon, and Idiot Baby Obama insured that the Religious Kooks would be able to kill millions.

3 posted on 12/10/2015 2:35:56 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Isara

Sometimes your only viable choices are “very bad” vs “much worse”.
In this case, “brutal dictator” vs “genocidal theocracy”.


4 posted on 12/10/2015 2:38:35 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Isara
Secure? I would say ‘stable’
5 posted on 12/10/2015 2:39:42 PM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: CPT Clay

with regard to Iraq, there was a war begun in 1990 still in process in 2003.

Iraq was neither secure nor stable

Libya under the influence of the son was becoming both more stable and secure


6 posted on 12/10/2015 2:42:36 PM PST by Thibodeaux (this time really is different)
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To: Isara

I dunno about that. Saddam ran a couple of armored divisions into Kuwait with no warning. That may be a lot of things, but “secure” it is not.


7 posted on 12/10/2015 2:43:35 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Isara

And he’s right. Invading Iraq without a clear definition of victory or even mission completion was a monumental mistake, as was overthrowing Ghadaffi “just because.”

We should have rolled up al-Qaeda and Taliban in Afghanistan FIRST.


8 posted on 12/10/2015 2:45:47 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: Isara

GW defeated Hussein and tamed his country. Ghaddaffy cried for help from his Arab buddies (but submitted to GW.) Obama came in, surrendered in Iraq, executed Quaudaafy and started Holy Hell there. TRIED the same thing in Egypt, but Egyptian patriots said “No you DON’T.”


9 posted on 12/10/2015 2:46:08 PM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: ScottinVA

the war in Iraq had been in process for 12 years in 2003


10 posted on 12/10/2015 2:47:19 PM PST by Thibodeaux (this time really is different)
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Cruz said Gadhafi did bad things but had worked with the United States and "was actively cooperating in hunting down and stopping radical Islamic terrorists." The Texas senator said Gadhafi's ouster has turned Libya into a "chaotic warzone ruled by radical Islamic terrorists."
Cruz is correct about Libya, and now comes more bad news that Libya is a safe haven for top ISIS leaders.

IS leader al-Baghdadi reportedly moves from Turkey to Libya

We can count Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Marco Rubio among the wrong-headed creators of the foreign policy that advocated regime change in Libya and the removal of Muammar Qaddafi.

March, 2011: Marco Rubio on Libya - and the Need for Regime Change

11 posted on 12/10/2015 2:49:16 PM PST by Unmarked Package (Don't hope, instead KNOW you are supporting a PROVEN conservative. Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: Isara

Nation building doesn’t work, whether it’s call Arab Spring or anything else. Years ago, I took a university class from Dr. Russell Kirk. He was fond of quoting a friend of his as saying, “The United States Constitution is not for export.”


12 posted on 12/10/2015 2:49:25 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: Billthedrill

Saddam ran a couple of armored divisions into Kuwait with no warning....What? GHWB’s Sec. Of State gave Hussein the Go Ahead if I remember. That’s why he called GWHB the”snake” and GWB the Son of the Snake.


13 posted on 12/10/2015 2:50:50 PM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: soycd

Trump made that point a long time ago.

Wait a minute!! Cruz said that Trump does not have the judgment to be President.


14 posted on 12/10/2015 2:51:40 PM PST by odawg
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To: Isara

Genesis 16:12

You cannot tame the Arab. Either he will be held in check with a strong hand, or he will go dangerously crazy all over the place.

Our progressive pols have chosen the latter.


15 posted on 12/10/2015 2:52:25 PM PST by lurk
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To: Safetgiver

citation please


16 posted on 12/10/2015 2:52:40 PM PST by Thibodeaux (this time really is different)
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To: ctdonath2

In this case, “brutal dictator” vs “genocidal theocracy”.


Yep, and in the case of muslims, a brutal dictator — especially a secular one — is far better for everyone. Muslims have proven they can’t be trusted to choose their leaders. They function best under the firm jackboot of an iron-fisted dictator.


17 posted on 12/10/2015 2:52:43 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: ScottinVA
Bush, Clinton and Obama

Ted you an add Syria, too

18 posted on 12/10/2015 2:54:53 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Safetgiver
No, the "go-ahead" or "green light" was a lie from the beginning. April Glaspie, the ambassador, told Saddam that the United States did not intend to intervene in the dispute between Saddam and Kuwait over non-vertical drilling practices that Saddam claimed were violating the Iraqi border and that he eventually used as a casus belli. It was an absolutely correct diplomatic response that was twisted into a "green light". I'm sorry to see it repeated so often on FR.
19 posted on 12/10/2015 2:57:25 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Thibodeaux

On a very low-intensity level, yes.


20 posted on 12/10/2015 2:58:13 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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