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Obama: We can't let "this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam"
Jihad Watch ^ | 12/6/15 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 12/07/2015 3:56:22 AM PST by markomalley

The “millions of patriotic Muslim-Americans who reject their hateful ideology” are not doing anything to counter it. There is no program in any mosque or Islamic school in the U.S. teaching young Muslims why they should reject the understanding of Islam that the Islamic State propagates. Obama’s solicitude for these patriotic Muslim-Americans rules out any possibility of understanding the ideology, motives and goals of the jihad terrorists — and that in turn rules out any possibility of defeating them.

(video at link)

“FULL SPEECH: Obama says ‘Freedom is more powerful than fear,’” PBS, December 6, 2015:

…Here’s what else we cannot do. We cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam. That, too, is what groups like ISIL want.

ISIL does not speak for Islam. They are thugs and killers, part of a cult of death. And they account for a tiny fraction of a more than a billion Muslims around the world, including millions of patriotic Muslim-Americans who reject their hateful ideology.

Moreover, the vast majority of terrorist victims around the world are Muslim.

If we’re to succeed in defeating terrorism, we must enlist Muslim communities as some of our strongest allies, rather than push them away through suspicion and hate.

That does not mean denying the fact that an extremist ideology has spread within some Muslim communities. It’s a real problem that Muslims must confront without excuse.

Muslim leaders here and around the globe have to continue working with us to decisively and unequivocally reject the hateful ideology that groups like ISIL and Al Qaeda promote, to speak out against not just acts of violence, but also those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible with the values of religious tolerance, mutual respect, and human dignity.

But just as it is the responsibility of Muslims around the world to root out misguided ideas that lead to radicalization, it is the responsibility of all Americans, of every faith, to reject discrimination. It is our responsibility to reject religious tests on who we admit into this country. It’s our responsibility to reject proposals that Muslim-Americans should somehow be treated differently. Because when we travel down that road, we lose. That kind of divisiveness, that betrayal of our values plays into the hands of groups like ISIL.

Muslim-Americans are our friends and our neighbors, our co- workers, our sports heroes. And, yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. We have to remember that….



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jihad; muslims; obama; terrorism
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To: ImNotLying
> “All Jihadis may call themselves Muslims but not all Muslims are Jihadi Islamists.”

Then they better get off their ass and start coming out publicly denouncing these terrorists.

hard to do when they're cheering them on. I don't believe there are peaceful Muslims who want any of this stopped for a second; just lazy ones who don't want to get off their a$$ and would rather have ISIS do the head lopping for them.

41 posted on 12/07/2015 4:48:16 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: markomalley; Robert Spencer; All

Great thread/posts. HOORAY Robert Spencer. BUMP!


42 posted on 12/07/2015 4:48:19 AM PST by PGalt
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To: markomalley
Until there's a news conference in which hundreds of these peaceful Muslims and their leaders get on stage and demand that Muslims condemn ISIS and all radical Islamic terrorism, including reporting anyone who exhibits radical sympathies and activities, it's a problem where we can't trust Muslims.

And what about our US Senate? Only ten Senators voted to stop immigration and refugees from countries with terrorist situations!

43 posted on 12/07/2015 4:51:43 AM PST by grania
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To: markomalley

44 posted on 12/07/2015 5:00:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: markomalley

That was not so much a presidential speech as it was an infomercial by a lame duck for his strategy of doing nothing of substance other then waiting to dump the problem in the next guy’s lap capped off by his standard most muslims are wonderful text.Next time he approaches the networks to do a prime time speech, they should redirect him to the matchbook companies to post it on the back of a matchbook.


45 posted on 12/07/2015 5:00:50 AM PST by chuckee
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To: markomalley
We cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam. That, too, is what groups like ISIL want.

But we wouldn't be "turning against each other'. We Americans would be turning against Islam, which has already declared war on America.

This sentence tells more about where this jerk's mind's at than anything else he's said.

46 posted on 12/07/2015 5:09:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: b4its2late

Beat me to it.

Why not? The Muslims say it is.


47 posted on 12/07/2015 5:10:15 AM PST by odawg
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To: markomalley

Bastard! it is!


48 posted on 12/07/2015 5:45:08 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country t)
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To: GreenHornet
Today is the 74th anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. If Obama had been president then, he would have told the nation: “We should not judge all of the Japanese by the actions of a few pilots.”

And yet that is effectively what we ended up doing, because our leaders underestimated the threat from the "militant, radical" Japanese who led the rest.

As Jefferson noted, mankind are more disposed to suffer (tolerate) evils than to correct matters.

So what are we to expect from the one billion muslims who are not in charge of anything, and who are prepared to go along with militant and radical muslims, at the very least? How will we deal with them later? Will we bomb their cities without mercy, because we prefer to feel fair and merciful today?

Unfortunately, there are more of them than there were of Japanese, and our weapons are far more powerful. Our leaders are inferior. Our people are less educated and more indoctrinated. The day will come when we'll have to incinerate hundreds of millions of non-militant muslims, but it will be too little and too late.

Let it also be stipulated that we as a people have something else in common with the billion or so who are not in charge of anything, and who are prepared to go along with militant and radical leaders. The terrible difference is that we know exactly where our leaders sit. In fact, we send them money in a regular and timely fashion. Oh, they usually allow us to say whatever we please, but that's only because they are certain we are all talk. I'm certain of it too. When has a crowd of Americans gathered outside Congress and demanded the surrender of a legislator? Or outside the White House? The IRS? The Pentagon? Imagine if those places had been as well stocked with Japanese in 1941, as our government is today with muslims. (Can't imagine it? No, because it never would have been tolerated in the first place. Now, that tolerance the sweetest of virtues, and we can never stuff enough Trojans in the transparent horse.)

Talk won't fix this, it'll just delay the inevitable and add a few hundred million to the death toll. Or as many as seven billion.

49 posted on 12/07/2015 5:47:07 AM PST by Buttons12
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To: markomalley

“There is no program in any mosque or Islamic school in the U.S”

BS...BS...BS...BS...BS...BS...BS...BS...BS...BS...BS...

They did that in his “so-call” Christian Church with the devil rev wright!!!!!!!!!!!!!


50 posted on 12/07/2015 5:49:27 AM PST by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: markomalley

If you are not fighting islam then you will never win the war.


51 posted on 12/07/2015 5:50:33 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: ZULU
Muslims but not all Muslims are Jihadi Islamists.

No, but MOST Muslims will willingly go along with whatever the Jihadi Islamists say and do. That's a problem.

52 posted on 12/07/2015 5:51:03 AM PST by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: ZULU
All Jihadis may call themselves Muslims but not all Muslims are Jihadi Islamists.

Exactly what is it that Jihadis have done that the so-called prophet Mohammed didn't do and advocate himself?

I personally know a Muslim family that has been extremely caring and helpful for my 93 year-old Jewish mother who lives 1500 miles away. They are really nice.

But the same can't be said for Islam as a religion. Islam at its core is a horror against humanity, which it must necessarily be given its demand that its adherents follow the example of the "perfect man" -- that murderous, thieving, slave-holding, pedophilic, psychotic rapist war criminal Mohammed.

That nice Muslim couple I mentioned earlier? They go to a local mosque. Do you really think that there are any mosques that on some level do not provide aid, comfort and/or money to Jihadists?

There were good Germans in the 1930s and '40s, but that didn't make Nazisim a "doctrine of peace."

Islam must be banished from our nation to the greatest extent possible, and certainly its foreign adherents ought to be banned from our shores and air space forever.

53 posted on 12/07/2015 5:51:08 AM PST by Maceman
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To: markomalley

It’s not his decision to make. His view is irrelevant.


54 posted on 12/07/2015 5:56:31 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: puppypusher

You mentioned “King Obama”, just think, Obama is going to be just like Carter, the Clintons, and soon, Obama who will never shut up and try to constantly put themselves into the headlines.


55 posted on 12/07/2015 6:08:59 AM PST by kagnew
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To: markomalley

FAIL


56 posted on 12/07/2015 6:13:12 AM PST by Oratam
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To: markomalley

Screw you, you muslim bastard! This is a war of civilization vs. islam!


57 posted on 12/07/2015 6:15:25 AM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: ImNotLying; ZULU
>> "All Jihadis may call themselves Muslims but not all Muslims are Jihadi Islamists."

> Then they better get off their ass and start coming out publicly denouncing these terrorists.

And how about we start seeing a lot of big, bright "COEXIST" bumper stickers on the family car these Muslims drive to the mosque for Friday prayers, so that all the other Muslims get to see them?

No, not the car they leave at home, no not their kid's car. The one they take to the mosque where they are taught to hate America.

How about a big "COEXIST" banner displayed on their lawn? Who in the Muslim community is doing this already? Let's have a show of hands...

Silence. If there are any... pics or it didn't happen, as they say.

Of course, even the "COEXIST" banner and sticker could be considered "taqiya", couldn't they...

58 posted on 12/07/2015 6:16:00 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: ZULU
but not all Muslims are Jihadi Islamists

or so they say.

59 posted on 12/07/2015 6:17:00 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: arthurus
This fight is more aptly termed as being between Islam and everybody!

Precisely. And when "everybody" decides they've finally taken enough crap from Islam what follows will make the Holocaust look like a Sunday picnic.

Never pick a fight when you're outnumbered 6:1


60 posted on 12/07/2015 6:20:36 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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