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Is San Bernardino a Case of Taqiya?
self | Dec. 4, 2015 | self

Posted on 12/04/2015 6:12:22 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie

Work place violence or terrorism? Not the issue. Was this a case of taqiya?


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KEYWORDS: sanbernardino; tashfeenmalik; terrorist; wut
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To: The_Media_never_lie
There are a number of instances in the Holy Qur’an where taqiyah is endorsed. The first is the story of Ammar ibn Yasir who under severe torture gave in and denounced Islam verbally with words. However, his heart never swayed from the true faith. He went to the Prophet distraught, thinking he had lost his religion. The Prophet (pbuh) asked: ‘was your heart sure of Islam?’ Ammar replied: ‘yes, I only denounced it verbally because of their torture’. The Prophet (pbuh) said: ‘then it is okay, and if they come and do the same to you again, you say the same thing again’. The following ayah of the Holy Qur’an is regarding this incident.

I was under the impression (by the progressive socialists, athiest, agnostics et all) that we all worshipped the same God, but by a different name.

The above illustration clearly says otherwise.

21 posted on 12/04/2015 6:43:10 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: The_Media_never_lie

To an Islamist an acquaintance doesn’t matter especially if that acquaintance is of other religious belief than themselves, and especially if those beliefs are Jewish, or Christian.

The Islamist lives to kill non believers period. That would be non-believers of Islam, and to kill as many as he/she possibly can in the name of Allah.

I fail to see how Taqiya fits the picture of what happened in San Bernardino, and I fail also to see how Political correctness is involved in stating the truth about Islam.

Perhaps you could expound upon your premise.


22 posted on 12/04/2015 6:46:04 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

The mother lived there. No way she didn’t know.


23 posted on 12/04/2015 6:58:51 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Since you brought it up ... why don’t you tell us about taqiya and save a bunch of us googling it. I have no idea what it is. Must be some muslim thing I suppose :-)


24 posted on 12/04/2015 7:01:22 PM PST by plain talk
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You raise a good point.

In order to fight an enemy more effectively, the enemy must be understood as much as possible.


25 posted on 12/04/2015 7:02:40 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: plain talk

The word “al-Taqiyya”literally means: “Concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from physical and/or mental injury.”

Obama is a master of Taqiyya.


26 posted on 12/04/2015 7:05:02 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: plain talk
Taqiyya...deception to protect Islam and Islamic interests
27 posted on 12/04/2015 7:09:24 PM PST by wtd
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To: saywhatagain

The liberal mind will take your assertion and twist the issue to be that the god of Christianity teaches the same murderous lying living ‘somewhere’ in the Bible, ‘probably the Old Testament’. Magic Thinking allows the liberal mind to conclude before weighing the data. Thus the data will be seen to support the already determined preferred conclusion.


28 posted on 12/04/2015 7:10:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: wtd
In Shi'a Islam,[1] taqiya (تقیة taqiyyah/taqīyah) is a form of religious dissimulation, or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts, especially while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution.

From Wikipedia.

Wonder if this dude pretended to fit in in order to deceive his co workers before murdering them. This whole thing was premeditated, of course. I sincerely doubt everything was hunky dory and suddenly he decided to go out and murder his whole work group. How can anyone discuss this case, hoping to understand it, and not mention the taqiya concept?

29 posted on 12/04/2015 7:13:56 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I wouldn’t doubt that the relatives knew EXACTLY what was going on and are lying..


30 posted on 12/04/2015 7:28:45 PM PST by ArtDodger
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To: MHGinTN
Absolutely. What you write is a given. I have observed their twisted logic far too long.

Of course the latest was their convulted twisted attempt to illustrate that the Bible supported homosexualty. Of course while they blast the Bible for condeming homosexuality. All my apolitical associates picked up on that one. LOL.

31 posted on 12/04/2015 7:34:37 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Taquiya? Is that like Shaneel Ambrosia Taquilia in da hood?


32 posted on 12/04/2015 7:36:11 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Probably because no one knows WTF the word means. Is that muzzle lingo?


33 posted on 12/04/2015 7:37:41 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: ArtDodger
You remember that landlord who rented the apartment to the two ISLAMIC TERRORISTS in Paris? He said he had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA THEY WERE TERRORISTS. Well, GUESS WHAT? HE WAS LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH. Worse, he is a convicted killer!

Taqiyya, Taqiyya, Taqiyya.. Even 0dunga practices the fine art of Taqiyya or 'lying to Infidels'. The Quran instructs them to!

34 posted on 12/04/2015 7:40:26 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: ArtDodger

Mother and sister owned the house. House also had a garage.

Sister said Sayd would always be working in the garage and no one else used it. He would also shoot targets in the back yard. ill buy that if you do.

A family of five with no car, impossible.
Anyone using the car could not miss what Sayd was doing in that garage.

That whole marriage scenario was set up by Sayd.

Wives or girlfriends don’t give orders to Muslim Men, they treat them anyway to choose to.


35 posted on 12/04/2015 7:44:34 PM PST by topspinr
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To: The_Media_never_lie

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/03/san-bernadino-shooting-suspects-syed-rizwan-farook-tashfeen-malik

A few details about the Farooq family history and previous court filings


36 posted on 12/04/2015 7:56:47 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: topspinr

Show me a California suburb where it’s legal to shoot targets in your back yard, especially in an apartment complex. Is this another thing the neighbors were too PC to report?


37 posted on 12/04/2015 9:14:51 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
I am having trouble seeing how anyone could be blinded by ideology enough to murder workplace friends

I suspect it was because true islamic believer Syed came face to face with true Christian believer Nicholas Thalasinos.

The Devil in Syed bumped into the God in Nicholas.

Seems like that was the straw that broke the camel humper's back.

38 posted on 12/05/2015 3:01:09 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: All
Leftism: The ends justify the means.
Islam: (Taqiya) A Muslim is allowed under Sharia law, to lie.



39 posted on 12/05/2015 6:43:43 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: DavidLSpud
I believe that ISLAM teaches that Christians and Jews CAN NOT be befriended by Moslims.

Islam teaches whatever the local imam says it teaches. That's it's biggest problem - no central religious authority. Tell what you said to an American Muslim and he will strenuously object (and probably call you an "uneducated racist idiot") - because his imam says the Koran means something totally different than the ISIS imams say.

The media is, of course, accepting the Taquiya of the CAIR-type imams without any questions, and calling us racists for pointing out the truth.

40 posted on 12/05/2015 8:30:41 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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