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Sandbar Lounge closes; owner blames smoking ban
Casper Star Tribune ^ | November 30, 2015 | Heather Richards

Posted on 12/01/2015 7:56:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sandbar Lounge, a downtown Casper institution, will close for good Saturday, and its owner says the city's recently imposed smoking ban is to blame.

“The smoking ban destroyed the bar, as I foretold it would,” Nancy Goddard wrote Monday in a post on the Sandbar's Facebook page. “I have cried a million tears and will probably cry a million more again. I apologize. I tried and failed. God bless.”

Casper residents voted Nov. 3 to reinstate a 2012 smoking ban on bars. More than 6,000 voters cast ballots, with 54 percent voting in favor of the ban.

Ban supporters, such as the American Cancer Society, said public health would benefit from cigarettes being outlawed at city bars. Opponents argued the issue was a matter of small business rights and said Casper bars would lose business to establishment outside the city, where smoking is allowed.

Rich Roberts sat at a table with five friends, discussing Sandbar’s fate over burgers and fries. The friends have been meeting for lunch every Monday at the Sandbar for years. Only one of them is a smoker, but they all were sad the bar was closing.

“People didn’t realize what was going to happen (as a result of the smoking ban),” said Roberts.

Bill Reed, who’d stopped in for lunch and has been a patron at the Sandbar for decades said he was angry about how the debate was framed.

“It’s more of a freedoms issue,” he said. “It has to do with your individual rights as the owner of an establishment.”

Casper Mayor Charlie Powell said he was sorry to hear that Sandbar would close but noted the decision was ultimately made by the voters.

“I think the goal of the City Council was to put the debate before the electorate, and I have to assume that people who cast their votes for the ban knew that there would be hardship for some of the businesses that happen to rely on a smoking clientele," he said.

Saturday will be the last day of business at Sandbar, according to the Facebook post. Goddard was not at the bar when a reporter visited Monday, and she did not respond to a message left with a bartender.

“It’s just sad. Because of [the ban], there’s a granddaughter, daughter, sister that are gonna lose out,” Reed said, referring to family members who would have inherited the bar when Goddard retired.

Other Casper bars say business has declined since the ban went into effect.

It’s only been a few weeks, but Kristi Rainbolt said she had already seen a significant drop in income at TJ’s Bar and Grill. Rainbolt manages at TJ’s, one of the five bars that allowed smoking before the ordinance changed. It’s just like the drop in business in 2012, she said.

Rainbolt just hopes that she can survive the downturn. Small bars can’t afford to lose a portion of their clientele, she said.

“I feel bad for [Goddard]; it’s hard on her to close,” Rainbolt said. “I really hope we (at TJ’s) don’t have that happen.”

Matt Galloway voluntarily went nonsmoking in his bar and bowling alley before the ban. His income took a dive in the short term, but revenue came back up eventually, he said.

While that may be true for many bars, some businesses aren’t able to weather the storm, Rainbolt said.

“Some of us can’t make it through that dip. We have to have [business] continually coming in to keep the lights on and the doors open,” she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: casper; closing; liberals; nannystate; referendum; sandbarlounge; smokingban; vote; wyoming
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To: PrairieLady2

To what do you attribute all the wrecks, icy streets, driving drunk?


21 posted on 12/01/2015 10:12:18 PM PST by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No sympathy. My dad died of tobacco-caused cancer this past summer—still smoking while on ventilator. Sandbar’s loss or excuse that they could not find a way to stay in business without smoking. Others do fine.


22 posted on 12/01/2015 10:28:21 PM PST by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Smoking aside. If this bar/restaurant is closing after only one month of the new smoking ban then it was getting ready to close soon anyway.

I was just there in August passing through. The steakhouse I stopped in for dinner wasn’t very busy and the bartender said that since the oil took a dive; all the eateries in town were slow.

This is much more than just a smoking ban issue.


23 posted on 12/01/2015 10:28:27 PM PST by Boomer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Casper Mayor Charlie Powell said he was sorry to hear that Sandbar would close but noted the decision was ultimately made by the voters.

Next up: A vote on making the mayor's house into a half-way house for drug addicts and sex offenders. If it passes, he has no right to complain. I mean, he can be sorry, but it will have been decided by the voters, right?

24 posted on 12/01/2015 11:37:04 PM PST by Jack Black ( "Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide")
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To: Boomer

It doesn’t take much to break the bank.

Good observation. The smoking ban was likely the final nail.


25 posted on 12/01/2015 11:40:20 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: null and void

I haven’t seen a bar that allowed smoking in Texas in quite some time, though in the country it might be different. Hell, you can’t even smoke in bars in India.


26 posted on 12/02/2015 1:23:50 AM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: 21twelve

Once all the bars are forced to ban it, people who don’t feel like drinking alone eventually bite the bullet and come on in. However, as the article correctly pointed out, there is a lag time in there.


27 posted on 12/02/2015 1:25:21 AM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you don’t want to patronize bars that allow smoking don’t patronize bars that allow smoking.

Does seem kinda simple doesn't it? Liberty is almost always the answer.....

28 posted on 12/02/2015 2:26:19 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: ichabod1

I haven’t seen a bar that allowed smoking in Texas in quite some time,...
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Sounds like you need to get out more. Many bars/restaurants have designated smoking areas with very active exhaust fans. My local Waffle House also has such an area, where I can enjoy a leisurely meal, good coffee and several smokes.


29 posted on 12/02/2015 2:46:53 AM PST by octex
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To: octex

Not in Houston.


30 posted on 12/02/2015 4:21:45 AM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Casper? As in Wyoming?
aw, bless their hearts, let them smoke wherever they want!

Casper? I would rather live in Lubbock


31 posted on 12/02/2015 4:41:50 AM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Smoking (as if the slope was not already slippery enough) is where we the people poured grease down the slope, it took many years to come to fruition, now anything goes into the cauldron of burning liberties sitting at the bottom of freedoms mountain.

Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither.


32 posted on 12/02/2015 4:45:48 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: WKUHilltopper
May they enjoy the loss of tax dollars from the lack of taxable revenue.

They probably more than made up for it via increased cigarette taxes....

33 posted on 12/02/2015 5:59:02 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 21twelve
Just think of all the folks that would like to go to a place without a bunch of smoke in their faces all night. Probably enough for a few other places to call themselves smoke free and bring in some new customers.

PRECISELY!

This is the free market solution to this so-called problem.

34 posted on 12/02/2015 6:26:16 AM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: ichabod1

That was 2007, a lot has changed since then, I guess.


35 posted on 12/02/2015 6:35:15 AM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: VanShuyten

We have a bar here where I live in California that still allows smoking. Its nickname has always been Menopause Manor since it is right down the street from a retirement building and a lot of them smoke. The bartender and everyone else just kind of shrugs their shoulders.


36 posted on 12/02/2015 6:57:19 AM PST by sheana
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To: ichabod1
I haven’t seen a bar that allowed smoking in Texas in quite some time, though in the country it might be different

There are several here in the Dallas area. Logie's and Wizard's Cafe come to mind. There's also some BYOB Cigar bars that (obviously) allow smoking as well, though the nicer places (En Fuego) heavily discourage cigarettes.
37 posted on 12/02/2015 12:22:12 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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