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IBEW Sues EPA to Stop Clean Power Plan
IBEW International ^ | November 19, 2015 | IBEW

Posted on 11/21/2015 7:31:11 AM PST by dynoman

The IBEW has filed suit to prevent the implementation of new federal regulations on power plants. The IBEW petition joins the 27 states, several utilities and two other labor unions that are already challenging the regulation.

"The EPA is creating energy policy and they have neither the expertise nor the legal authority to do it," said International President Lonnie R. Stephenson. "We worked with the EPA for years to address greenhouse gas emissions with a plan that is both effective and legal. Unfortunately, we don't believe this regulation is either."

"Human-caused climate change is real, and a real threat, but focusing on power generation in isolation –leaving out industry, agriculture and transportation-ignores three-quarters of the problem," Stephenson said. "Everyone will benefit from an effective response so everyone should share in the cost."

Instead of simply requiring plants to increase efficiency using available technology, they have set a target of nearly 40 percent reduction in emissions from coal plants that would require shutting down production and, presumably, replacing it with natural gas, wind and solar generation that in many cases, does not exist.

"There is no economically feasible technology outside of a lab that would cut emissions nearly 40 percent," said Utility Department Director Jim Hunter. "Ordering plants to shut down was a power never envisioned by the authors of the Clean Air Act and it has never been allowed by a court."

(Excerpt) Read more at ibew.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cleanair; climatechange; energy; epa; epaibew; ibew
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"Human-caused climate change is real, and a real threat,"

I don't agree with that but it's nice to see IBEW take a stand on this.

1 posted on 11/21/2015 7:31:11 AM PST by dynoman
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"...leaving out industry, agriculture and transportation-ignores three-quarters of the problem."

Yeah, let's shut down agriculture.

Another bunch of rocket scientists heard from.

2 posted on 11/21/2015 7:33:19 AM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: dynoman

:: “Everyone will benefit from an effective response so everyone should share in the cost.” ::

And, HERE, we see the problem; there is no “sharing of costs”. As long as the developed counties (AKA: Capitalist and semi-capitalist) send “Climate Change” money to the “turd” world everything will be better.


3 posted on 11/21/2015 7:35:30 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: dynoman

If the EPA gets its way people won’t be legally able to exhale. How long can you hold your breath?


4 posted on 11/21/2015 7:36:19 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Steely Tom
> Yeah, let's shut down agriculture.

Another bunch of rocket scientists heard from.

if people will just stop breathing and cows stop farting we wouldn't have any problem.../s

5 posted on 11/21/2015 7:37:46 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: dynoman

Referencing the quote you used, my response to the IBEW would have to be “yeah; you suck up to Obastard and the Dems, until it’s your ox getting gored”.


6 posted on 11/21/2015 7:40:15 AM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: dynoman

They are only taking a stand because this EPA activity cuts in on their baileywick. The very sentence you highlighted tells us what we really need to know. Once the IBEW gets their concessions, everybody else can go frick themselves. Screw the IBEW.


7 posted on 11/21/2015 7:44:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They want us to live in caves.


8 posted on 11/21/2015 7:44:25 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: dynoman
From the IBEW web page,

From Florida to North Dakota, IBEW members and their families helped make the difference on Election Day, from reelecting Barack Obama and Joe Biden to a second term to helping pro-worker candidates win seats in Congress.

What a dumb bunch of SOB's

9 posted on 11/21/2015 7:46:20 AM PST by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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To: 5th MEB

I saw this with the CWA promoting Obamacare and then healthcare premiums went ballistic and then CWA members asking what went wrong....
Well “Unionism is Socialism” may be a start I told many!


10 posted on 11/21/2015 7:47:49 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: hadaclueonce

It is not like that Obama didn’t tell them what he was going to do with coal. someone call the Waaambulance..


11 posted on 11/21/2015 7:48:18 AM PST by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They don’t want us to live period. These nutbars think human beings are a cancer on the Earth that needs eradicating.


12 posted on 11/21/2015 7:48:46 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think I’ll go out and burn a couple tractor tires today to celebrate the EPA.


13 posted on 11/21/2015 7:50:59 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: dynoman
Whatever the deal is with climate change from a scientific viewpoint, the EPA is using it as a pretext to make total economic war against the American people.

In short, the Obamanists want us poor, hungry, and easy to push around.

14 posted on 11/21/2015 7:52:32 AM PST by Salman
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To: 5th MEB

As an IBEW member that WAS my response, I have the letter I wrote as proof!


15 posted on 11/21/2015 7:54:32 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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What a dilemma for the Commie Electrical "workers", seeing the end of the line for their jobs in the crumbling Socialist economy, and having to remain on their knees as good (no longer) useful idiots as the tin god fiefdom bureaucracy of the EPA destroys their jobs and the banksters soon destroy their union pensions.

"Globull warming is REAL, but please screw someone else, not us loyal Commies."

16 posted on 11/21/2015 7:56:31 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

You want to make the electrical-power industry of this country and every industrialized country in the world both cost-efficient and carbon neutral?

Go Nuclear. But not uranium-fueled light-water plants, instead, get the manufacturing kinks ironed out and start building thorium-fueled molten salt plants. The chief production of any atomic pile is heat energy, lots of it, produced reliably and continuously, which is used to heat water to steam and drive steam turbines, which then do the actual generation of electricity.

Uranium-fueled plants are, by their very nature, quite large and cannot operate efficiently or reliable if less than a certain optimal size. Add to that the byproducts of the “burning” of uranium, which are radioactive isotopes and elements that can remain radioactive for millennia, requiring long-term storage, a prospect that has never been realized.

Thorium-fueled plants, on the other hand, do NOT produce these long-lived elements and isotopes, but in fact, have the surprising capability of using this long-term radioactive “waste” as sort of a sparkplug to ignite their own reaction, and in doing so, “burn up” all these stores of radioactive waste, eventually eliminating them forever.

Thorium-fueled molten salt plants also have vastly more flexibility as to size and practical location near the point of usage of the electricity, because of a safety factor in that there are NO long-term radioactive waste products, nor is the “China syndrome” of a uranium-fueled plant even possible, or a break in the containment on the order of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster.

We have the technology, and for much less than the cost of “cleaning up” coal-fired plants, we can have these sources on line and producing power within the decade.


17 posted on 11/21/2015 7:57:30 AM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: hadaclueonce

I was going to ask if the IBEW might be a little more conservative than most of the other unions, but it looks like you answered my question.


18 posted on 11/21/2015 7:59:39 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: dynoman

slimey union scum will donate and vote for RATS


19 posted on 11/21/2015 8:04:09 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: dynoman

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


20 posted on 11/21/2015 8:08:31 AM PST by abclily
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