Posted on 11/20/2015 7:51:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Question: Do moderate Muslims believe in the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc?
If so, why would they be considered "moderate" and why should any of them be allowed into our country under any circumstances whatsoever?
The Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc, are beliefs, laws and concepts that are antithetical to our Judeo-Christian system of government, constitution laws, culture, etc, and besides being hateful and incitement to violence and terrorism are in fact, subversive to our constitution and a direct threat to our unalienable rights and even to the continuation of our free nation.
The following is excerpted from: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/204505/does-quran-teach-hate-robert-spencer
The Qur'an teaches that Muslims must fight and kill unbelievers "wherever you overtake them" until "religion is Allah's," i.e. Islamic law rules all societies (2:190-193). They must fight unbelievers "until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah" (8:39). Muslims are to fight unbelievers and "prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows" (8:60).
Allah tells Muhammad to "fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination" (9:73). The followers of Muhammad should imitate him in this: "O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness" (9:123). For "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves" (48:29).
Muslims should not befriend non-Muslims, unless, as we have seen, it is to deceive them to save oneself from danger: "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence" (3:28).
Allah says he will "cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve" (3:151). He tells his prophet: "[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."
Among "those who have disbelieved" are the Christians, who have made themselves into disbelievers by worshipping Christ as God: "They have certainly disbelieved who say, 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary'" (5:17; 5:72). In worshipping Christ, they have associated a partner with Allah, thereby becoming polytheists, and "the polytheists are unclean" (9:28). Both Jews and Christians have ascribed a son to Allah, for which Allah should destroy them: "The Jews say, 'Ezra is the son of Allah'; and the Christians say, 'The Messiah is the son of Allah.' That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?" (9:30).
Chief among those are the Jews. The Muslim holy book also contends that Allah transformed disobedient Jews into "apes, despised" (2:65; 7:166), and "apes and pigs" (5:60). It says that they're accursed for rejecting the Qur'an, which they should have recognized as confirming their own Scriptures: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers" (2:89).
The Qur'an says that while Muslims are "the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind," the People of the Book (primarily Jews and Christians) are mostly "defiantly disobedient" (3:110). The Jews "have been put under humiliation [by Allah] wherever they are overtaken, except for a covenant from Allah and a rope from the Muslims" -- that is, except those who have accepted Islam or submitted to Muslim rule. "And they have drawn upon themselves anger from Allah and have been put under destitution. That is because they disbelieved in the verses of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That is because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed" (3:112). They killed the prophets because they disliked their messages: "Whenever there came to them a messenger with what their souls did not desire, a party [of messengers] they denied, and another party they killed" (5:70).
Not only have they disbelieved in revelations from Allah and killed the prophets, but they even dare to mock Allah himself: "And the Jews say, 'The hand of Allah is chained.' Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say." They "strive throughout the land [causing] corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters" (5:64).
Allah gave food laws to the Jews because of their "wrongdoing," and "for their averting from the way of Allah many [people]" (4:160), and by doing so, "repaid them for their injustice" (6:146). Some Jews are "avid listeners to falsehood" who "distort words beyond their [proper] usages." These are "the ones for whom Allah does not intend to purify their hearts," and they will be punished not just in hellfire but in this life as well: "For them in this world is disgrace, and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment" (5:41).
Jews dare to deny divine revelation, claiming that "Allah did not reveal to a human being anything," to which Muhammad is told to respond, "Who revealed the Scripture that Moses brought as light and guidance to the people? You [Jews] make it into pages, disclosing [some of] it and concealing much" (6:91).
In light of all this, it is understandable that Muslims should not get close to such people: "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people" (5:51). What's more, the Jews are "the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers" (5:82).
While Muslims are the "best of people" (3:110), "they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures" (98:6). They are "like livestock" (7:179). "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe" (8:55).
oh wow libertarian ... I thought that link was from caww.
so sorry ... thank you to you too ... smiles
On the other side...
Question: Do moderate Christians believe in the Bible, when it speaks of sin?
How does a Nation with In GOD We Trust on it's money; condone Abortion? "Gay" rights?
Sounds like the explanation for PCness in this country.
This fella is a HOMEGROWN terrorist that OBAMA worries about.
Barak does NOT mention his RELIGION.
The lesson has been learned...
A good MO no matter WHAT the subject!
Do your OWN research on most every subject.
Who is that in the middle?
Islam is a war plan and “moderate” muslims are their Trojan Horse.
Snake head Carville
Appropriate. Didn’t recognize him in glasses - hides his “snake-eyes”.
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IIRC even the Greek language had changed from the common (but precise, not vulgar) Koine in the twelve centuries between the time the NT was written and Erasmus' time (~1509 for his first Byzantine Majority Textform compilation).
Don Martin's Basic Biblical Greek Lesson One (click here) discusses the transformational aspect. It might be said that without Erasmus' "Textus Receptus" there likely would have been no Tyndall, and hence no KJV.
Erasmus was keen on printing an acceptable Greek text for Bible students everywhere.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2007/09/the-mountain-meadows-massacre?lang=eng
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
At this point, I’m just waiting for the shooting to start.
Not that you'd know it, but there's a lot more to the history of the Cav than the Indian Wars. You do realize that there's still Cavalry in the US Army, don't you? And that they don't ride horses anymore? You do realize that the Cavalry existed long before the 1870s, don't you? Maybe that's a big assumption in your case...
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Pathetic...I'm reminded of the old saying that if someone is bound and determined to demonstrate how much of a fool they are, give 'em enough rope.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
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