Posted on 11/20/2015 7:51:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Question: Do moderate Muslims believe in the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc?
If so, why would they be considered "moderate" and why should any of them be allowed into our country under any circumstances whatsoever?
The Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc, are beliefs, laws and concepts that are antithetical to our Judeo-Christian system of government, constitution laws, culture, etc, and besides being hateful and incitement to violence and terrorism are in fact, subversive to our constitution and a direct threat to our unalienable rights and even to the continuation of our free nation.
The following is excerpted from: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/204505/does-quran-teach-hate-robert-spencer
The Qur'an teaches that Muslims must fight and kill unbelievers "wherever you overtake them" until "religion is Allah's," i.e. Islamic law rules all societies (2:190-193). They must fight unbelievers "until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah" (8:39). Muslims are to fight unbelievers and "prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows" (8:60).
Allah tells Muhammad to "fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination" (9:73). The followers of Muhammad should imitate him in this: "O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness" (9:123). For "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves" (48:29).
Muslims should not befriend non-Muslims, unless, as we have seen, it is to deceive them to save oneself from danger: "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence" (3:28).
Allah says he will "cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve" (3:151). He tells his prophet: "[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."
Among "those who have disbelieved" are the Christians, who have made themselves into disbelievers by worshipping Christ as God: "They have certainly disbelieved who say, 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary'" (5:17; 5:72). In worshipping Christ, they have associated a partner with Allah, thereby becoming polytheists, and "the polytheists are unclean" (9:28). Both Jews and Christians have ascribed a son to Allah, for which Allah should destroy them: "The Jews say, 'Ezra is the son of Allah'; and the Christians say, 'The Messiah is the son of Allah.' That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?" (9:30).
Chief among those are the Jews. The Muslim holy book also contends that Allah transformed disobedient Jews into "apes, despised" (2:65; 7:166), and "apes and pigs" (5:60). It says that they're accursed for rejecting the Qur'an, which they should have recognized as confirming their own Scriptures: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers" (2:89).
The Qur'an says that while Muslims are "the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind," the People of the Book (primarily Jews and Christians) are mostly "defiantly disobedient" (3:110). The Jews "have been put under humiliation [by Allah] wherever they are overtaken, except for a covenant from Allah and a rope from the Muslims" -- that is, except those who have accepted Islam or submitted to Muslim rule. "And they have drawn upon themselves anger from Allah and have been put under destitution. That is because they disbelieved in the verses of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That is because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed" (3:112). They killed the prophets because they disliked their messages: "Whenever there came to them a messenger with what their souls did not desire, a party [of messengers] they denied, and another party they killed" (5:70).
Not only have they disbelieved in revelations from Allah and killed the prophets, but they even dare to mock Allah himself: "And the Jews say, 'The hand of Allah is chained.' Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say." They "strive throughout the land [causing] corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters" (5:64).
Allah gave food laws to the Jews because of their "wrongdoing," and "for their averting from the way of Allah many [people]" (4:160), and by doing so, "repaid them for their injustice" (6:146). Some Jews are "avid listeners to falsehood" who "distort words beyond their [proper] usages." These are "the ones for whom Allah does not intend to purify their hearts," and they will be punished not just in hellfire but in this life as well: "For them in this world is disgrace, and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment" (5:41).
Jews dare to deny divine revelation, claiming that "Allah did not reveal to a human being anything," to which Muhammad is told to respond, "Who revealed the Scripture that Moses brought as light and guidance to the people? You [Jews] make it into pages, disclosing [some of] it and concealing much" (6:91).
In light of all this, it is understandable that Muslims should not get close to such people: "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people" (5:51). What's more, the Jews are "the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers" (5:82).
While Muslims are the "best of people" (3:110), "they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures" (98:6). They are "like livestock" (7:179). "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe" (8:55).
All of islam is 'naturally radical' because it mandates genocide, apartheid, mutilation, slavery, pedophilia, etc. and they ALL Muslims share the same koran ... it is not a buffet from which they can pick and chose.
All of islam is 'naturally radical' because it mandates genocide, apartheid, mutilation, slavery, pedophilia, etc. and they ALL Muslims share the same koran ... it is not a buffet from which they can pick and chose.
The Evil of this satanic death cult is taught to the children
from infancy and the indoctrination is complete.
With Males being in such total control of the family unit,
any dissension is harshly suppressed.
A Reformation is impossible ,
IMHO.
Jihad is an inner struggle. < -— The big lie.
Only after the crazies kill all of us ... then they do because what choice will they have? (at that point, what difference will it make sort of a deal)
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Moderate Muslims are only moderately Muslim.
Real Islam doesn’t recognize someone as only partly Muslim either...and according to the professors I’ve heard lecture on this subject, there simply is no dividing line between radical Jihadists and your average “moderate” Muslim, its just a matter of how seriously they are following their religion.
“A true muslim wants to cut your head off, a moderate muslim wants a true muslim to cut your head off”
“Moderate Muslim” is a fairytale created by the Unicorn cowboys of brokebutt mountain.
The libs live in a fantasy World.
5C&D:
Perfect Summary!
They better or they have their heads handed to them.
I’m led to understand there are millions of moderate Muslims. I haven’t met him yet.
"These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it."
So my take is that there is no such thing as a "moderate muslim".
Being a moderate Muslim is like being just a little bit pregnant....no such thing.
“Moderate” muslims pave the way for jihad. Bringing in the Caliphate cannot be denied by any muslim for any reason. If you aren’t doing violent jihad, then you are practicing jihad by other means, anytime, anyhere. To do otherwise is to become apostate- a fate worse than being an infidel.
The Imams consistently state there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.....that it’s a western invention and does not exist.
But they do acknowledge there are ‘Apostate Muslims’....which to an Islamic Muslim is one who has left Islam and no longer qualify as Muslim.....it is a conscious abandonment of Islam by a Muslim in word or through deed..as well as Muslims who have ‘questioned’ or denied any “fundamental tenet or creed” of Islam.
The vast majority of Islamic scholars have held that apostasy in Islam is ‘a crime punishable with the death penalty’, typically after a waiting period to allow the apostate time to repent and return to Islam. But others have varied opinions.
Even a nominal Muslim, who was born into the religion but does not believe in it and does not follow the rituals, is still counted as a Muslim and is added into the pool of "peaceful" adherents. But in reality that person is not religious at all and should not be counted. This technique creates a significant error when the entire population of a country is counted as Muslim, even though only a much smaller number cares about Islam and chooses to dedicate some resources to it (even if it's just their own time.)
Moderate muslims are people who do good in spite of their religion’s teachings.
French counter-terrorism officers 'RAIDED A MOSQUE' in the port city of Brest at 3.30am today! (It's about time!).... the first time that a mosque has been targeted since the attacks a week ago....It went on for two-and-a-half hours, as police were also seen swarming into the nearby home of the mosque's 'radical Imam Rachid Abou Houdeyfa....raided while he was there....
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