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Barack Obama: ISIS Is Not a Terrorist Organization
newsmax ^ | 11/16/15 | c ruddy

Posted on 11/16/2015 6:01:49 PM PST by bestintxas

In Turkey on Monday, President Barack Obama stated that ISIS is not "a traditional military opponent" and labeled it as a "violent extremist group."

His comments cut directly to the heart of why the U.S. has been so ineffectual in defeating this enemy.

If we don't even recognize it for what it is, how can we defeat it?

ISIS is not a terrorist organization. It is indeed a state. It is a "traditional military opponent."

Though ISIS uses unorthodox means and barbaric tactics, it has become a "state" – a state that could have been crippled if not wiped out long ago.

A terrorist group that controls and governs a land mass estimated to be the size of the state of Indiana or larger — and that has all the attributes of the governing body, is a state.

In Turkey on Monday, President Barack Obama stated that ISIS is not "a traditional military opponent" and labeled it as a "violent extremist group."

His comments cut directly to the heart of why the U.S. has been so ineffectual in defeating this enemy.

If we don't even recognize it for what it is, how can we defeat it?

ISIS is not a terrorist organization. It is indeed a state. It is a "traditional military opponent."

Though ISIS uses unorthodox means and barbaric tactics, it has become a "state" – a state that could have been crippled if not wiped out long ago.

A terrorist group that controls and governs a land mass estimated to be the size of the state of Indiana or larger — and that has all the attributes of the governing body, is a state. If it acts like a duck, walks like a duck . . .

Why is this such an important distinction for us?

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To: bestintxas

Obama, you did not think the Taliban were terrorists either.

Here is your big project in Afghanistan today!

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/11/dozens-of-afghan-troops-surrender-to-taliban-in-helmand.php


21 posted on 11/16/2015 6:24:40 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: bestintxas

Isis is NOT a traditional military opponent and NOT a state. As soon as you field an army they will melt into the background. You will NEVER get a straight up fight from them unless it is on their terms. Just because you control some land does not make you a state.


22 posted on 11/16/2015 6:31:08 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to1erKy7ERA


23 posted on 11/16/2015 6:35:34 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: bestintxas
"ISIS is not a terrorist organization" Ronald Reagan photo: Ronald Reagan ReaganUnafraid.jpg There he goes again ...
24 posted on 11/16/2015 6:39:58 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

“Isis is NOT a traditional military opponent and NOT a state. As soon as you field an army they will melt into the background. You will NEVER get a straight up fight from them unless it is on their terms. Just because you control some land does not make you a state.

And exactly what is your point?

My point is that Obama does not recognize a terrorist when he sees one.

You are defending someone who is trying to destroy this country?

And what is the difference between ISIS, which are just fundamentalists Muslims, and the Japanese in WWII, which were fundamentalist Nationalists that were almost invisible for years in the islands in the Far East during WWII?

What do you do to this type of opponent? You exterminate them at the source. Westerners have the power to destroy Islam, if they have the will.

Allah which does not exist cannot save them, but a very merciful God of Abraham can, perhaps. He might have other ideas, though.


25 posted on 11/16/2015 6:43:25 PM PST by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: FreedBird

Who is telling Obama to bring all the refugees to this country? Why is he going to flood this country with more refugees?>>>

it is his plan for re-election in 2016. create chaos. murder the republican winner/primary/national election. then buy the electors.


26 posted on 11/16/2015 6:47:14 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: beethovenfan

January 20th, 2017. Hopefully.


27 posted on 11/16/2015 6:56:42 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (I'd rather be islamophobic and alive, than tolerant and dead.)
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To: bestintxas
Are you listening, Paul Ryan?

I suppose it's good to ask, but we both know the answer is 'no'.

28 posted on 11/16/2015 6:58:41 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Therefore, Sir, I tell you again ... you are necessitated to BREAK them." -- Oliver Cromwell)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Have you read the Koran?

Short version: To establish a caliphate, they need to control territory. Ergo, denying them control of territory invalidates their claim to be a budding caliphate per their own doctrines.

/Know thy enemy...


29 posted on 11/16/2015 6:58:50 PM PST by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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To: Talisker
I would ask the 0bomb to name a terrorist organization. If he answered at all, he probably would come up with an obscure, minute-in-number, white supremacist group.
30 posted on 11/16/2015 7:00:06 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: exit82
Obama on ISIS (ISIL to him)...

The accepted meaning of ISIS is the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. To Obama it's the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. This is a big distinction. The levant is a broad historicl region that includes Jordan, Lebanon, and Israel in addition to Syria. Basically all the Middle Eastern nations on the Mediterranean east of Egypt. And as such he is giving ISIS a much larger claim to territory. Now the question is, does ISIS/ISIL actually claim the entire Levant or is Obama giving that to them?

I beleive I have heard that the real stated goal is that ISIS wants the entire Levant and their goal was initially translated as just Syria, probably because the concept of the Levant is sort of archaic and not well understood in the USA these days.

So technically I think Obama is right, they consider themselves ISIL and not (merely) ISIS. It indicates they are more ambitious then just ISIS would imply.

Of course were I President I would not honor their desire for the entire Levant region by recognizing it in their name. In fact I would call them ISH, the Islamic State of Hell. And I'd help them claim that territory that rightly belongs to them.

31 posted on 11/16/2015 7:07:49 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (The only fiscally sound thing dems ever did: create a state run media they don't have to pay for)
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To: bestintxas

“And exactly what is your point?”
The point was that the fundamental assertions of the author are wrong, for the reasons I stated.

My point is that Obama does not recognize a terrorist when he sees one.”
True. He is an @SS and hates the US.

“You are defending someone who is trying to destroy this country?”
How do you possibly come to that conclusion? Its idiotic. Obozo is a defender of Isis and looks for excuses to apologize for them. He loves Islam. But his description of their organization isnt wrong just because he said it.

“And what is the difference between ISIS, which are just fundamentalists Muslims, and the Japanese in WWII, which were fundamentalist Nationalists that were almost invisible for years in the islands in the Far East during WWII?”

The Japs were a conventional enemy and were fighting a conventional war. They were a real state and had a government with fixed locations. Isis is a fluid band of terrorists who transiently hold land are not a real government. You cant fight them the same way we fought the Japanese. The Iraqis tried to fight us using conventional warfare in Desert Storm. They were quickly destroyed. When we went back to fight gulf war II the Iraqi army had learned their lesson and disappeared into the population. Isis will do the same.

“What do you do to this type of opponent? You exterminate them at the source. Westerners have the power to destroy Islam, if they have the will.”

Agreed. The problem is WILL. We dont have it.


32 posted on 11/16/2015 7:27:51 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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To: bestintxas

Obama is still in office because RINO’s kept him there. Thank you RINO’s.


33 posted on 11/16/2015 7:58:14 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: bestintxas

The Romans underestimated their enemies, the barbarians, and we know how that turned out for them


34 posted on 11/16/2015 8:14:52 PM PST by Ricky Maruga
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To: EvilCapitalist

Not soon enough.


35 posted on 11/16/2015 10:16:45 PM PST by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
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To: bestintxas

Ryan?
No better than this jive ass punk obammy.


36 posted on 11/17/2015 3:17:02 AM PST by Joe Boucher (the only good mooselimb is a dead mooselimb.)
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To: bestintxas

Doesn’t Nobama say ISIL? ISIS means nothing to him so of course ISIS is not a terrorist organization.


37 posted on 11/17/2015 3:36:56 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: bestintxas
Thanks, Mr.-Certified-57-States-Stupid for clarifying that ISIS is not a Terrorist Organization.
Are we to assume then that they are a Workplace Violence Organization?

38 posted on 11/19/2015 11:56:25 PM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: exit82

Whats going on in DC is definitely science fiction.


39 posted on 11/19/2015 11:59:40 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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