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Medical Marijuana Isn’t a Joke. Debating the DEA Head Is
News Ledge ^ | November 11, 2015 | Marcus Chavers

Posted on 11/11/2015 11:22:02 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

Another day, another controversy. Medical marijuana activists are rightly upset over comments DEA head, Chuck Rosenberg, made to reporters last week.

During a Q&A, he talked about his stance on medical marijuana.

"What really bothers me is the notion that marijuana is also medicinal because it's not. We can have an intellectually honest debate about whether we should legalize something that is bad and dangerous, but don't call it medicine -- that is a joke."

Right, so you want to have an intellectual debate prefaced with medical marijuana is a joke. Want to clarify that bit a more?

"There are pieces of marijuana -- extracts or constituents or component parts -- that have great promise," he said. "But if you talk about smoking the leaf of marijuana -- which is what people are talking about when they talk about medicinal marijuana -- it has never been shown to be safe or effective as a medicine."

I'm with the activists who point to study after study showing it helps with chronic pain, muscle spasms and other ailments. In fact, here's an analysis of 79 studies from JAMA pointing to "moderate-quality evidence to support the use of cannabinoids for the treatment of chronic pain and spasticity."

Damn, here he is making a blanket statement and along comes science...

Should Rosenberg Resign?

No. I get the frustrations of medical marijuana activists. They have turned to change.org demanding his resignation. As of today, the petition has gathered nearly 16,000 signatures.

Nothing wrong with voicing frustration at the DEA head, but it's empty. The DEA works like every other agency in the executive branch. It enforces the law. Well, sometimes...

23 states and DC have passed some form of marijuana legalization. Specific medicinal uses all the way to recreational. One problem, none of the state laws trump federal law.

And yes, the DEA is a federal agency. Chuck Rosenberg isn't a fan of marijuana. Even if he was on the side of legalizing it for everyone, he can't do anything. His job is to enforce the law as directed by the President.

Notice the raids have quieted down on dispensaries across the 23 states? Rosenberg may think it's a joke, but the latitude given to the states is telling. Politicians make bombastic statements, but state after state is flipping green.

More Research

The FDA is moving to give researchers more room to study the drug. The JAMA study above? 79 studies. That's it. In 2013, 16,000 people overdosed from opioid painkillers. How many died from overdosing on marijuana? Oh right... Zero.

Other studies have shown a decrease in painkiller overdose deaths when medical marijuana was accessible.

It isn't just pain where marijuana plays a significant role. Seizure disorders have been treated with various strains. Who knows what researchers could unlock in the future?

Is it time to open the doors and make it legal? For medicinal use? Definitely. Recreational? Soon, but it needs tight regulation to prevent a wild west of potent strains and no oversight. In Colorado and Washington, the results are still early, but you cannot call it a failure.

Is it a joke? Maybe to Chuck Rosenberg and others. Should he resign or be fired? Of course not.

To the people medical marijuana helps? They aren't laughing. And it's a shame they get targeted. But, the tide is turning. The American people are with them. State governments are increasingly with them. The Federal government? One day you'll wake up to a simple voice vote that finally ends the debate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cannabis; federalism; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; medpot; pot; potheads; statesrights; tenthamendment; wod
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1 posted on 11/11/2015 11:22:02 AM PST by ConservingFreedom
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To: ConservingFreedom

“Medical marijuana” is just cover to push recreational use into acceptability.


2 posted on 11/11/2015 11:23:36 AM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

MM is any oxymoron.


3 posted on 11/11/2015 11:23:39 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; fwdude
Wrong: 'here's an analysis of 79 studies from JAMA pointing to "moderate-quality evidence to support the use of cannabinoids for the treatment of chronic pain and spasticity."'
4 posted on 11/11/2015 11:25:31 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

horsepoop. MJ is toxic crap. There are other things you take to relieve pain.


5 posted on 11/11/2015 11:26:32 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: fwdude

Prohibition was cover for paper fiber over hemp and racist views about users.


6 posted on 11/11/2015 11:27:19 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
MJ is toxic

Ignorant nonsense - the lethal dose of THC is 240 joints.

There are other things you take to relieve pain.

Those other things are, in fact, toxic.

7 posted on 11/11/2015 11:28:13 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: fwdude

And criminalizing recreational drugs is nothing but a way for the government to use its iron fist to take away your freedoms.


8 posted on 11/11/2015 11:28:20 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

KEEP THE FREAKING GOVERNMENT OUT!


9 posted on 11/11/2015 11:30:50 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: fwdude
“Medical marijuana” is just cover to push recreational use into acceptability.

Has recreational use of hydrocodone been pushed into acceptability by its accepted medical uses?

10 posted on 11/11/2015 11:32:10 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Here in CA, MM is a total joke and a fraud. Check out the dispensaries. You have a sore leg. They give it to you.

Meanwhile try lighting up a regular cigarette, they call the SWAT team out on you. Total BS if you ask me.


11 posted on 11/11/2015 11:35:23 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: ConservingFreedom
Has recreational use of hydrocodone been pushed into acceptability by its accepted medical uses?

It seems to have been in Colorado.

12 posted on 11/11/2015 11:37:41 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Here in CA, MM is a total joke and a fraud. Check out the dispensaries. You have a sore leg. They give it to you.

Still not a joke in other states, nor to those in CA with genuine medical need.

13 posted on 11/11/2015 11:38:33 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: Yo-Yo
Has recreational use of hydrocodone been pushed into acceptability by its accepted medical uses?

It seems to have been in Colorado.

Recreational use of hydrocodone is accepted in Colorado? Evidence?

14 posted on 11/11/2015 11:39:59 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
"MJ is toxic crap. There are other things you take to relieve pain."

And all of them more toxic than marijuana.

That said, my youthful experience did not note any pain relief qualities.

But I do know a bunch of Vets who use it for PTSD and get very good results...if for no other reason than keeping them off the bottle.

15 posted on 11/11/2015 11:40:31 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: ConservingFreedom

That’s the fraud. It is not genuine medical need. It is fraud and abuse here in CA. Many of the pot dispensaries here have become criminal hotbeds.


16 posted on 11/11/2015 11:40:31 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: ConservingFreedom

My view on the whole MM issue is its legalization is an incremental step to recreational legalization. I will also say that the vast majority of MM users are just potheads.

However, for many it is helpful. BTW I tried it in the 60’s, but never developed a fondness for it. My mother, however used it in teas, brownies, etc. (never smoked it) for her cancer and chemo treatment issues. It did wonders for her and made things bearable.


17 posted on 11/11/2015 11:40:55 AM PST by umgud (v)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

On the HBO series Entourage they made California medical marijuana into a running joke and a scam where potheads were easily able to buy their sacred “herb” at dispensaries with a doctors note from a pro-marijuana MD.


18 posted on 11/11/2015 11:41:17 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“horsepoop. MJ is toxic crap. There are other things you take to relieve pain.”

Well I beg to differ. My wife, who is 73, suffers from back pain (she has had one surgery and may have to have two more), and she is alegic to opioids. She has never smoked her entire life, but she has gotten some relief from her pain using marijuana. So unless you’re a doctor with some evidence to the contrary, your comment is the “horsepoop” here. Sometimes there are not “other things” to relieve pain, and in point of fact, “pain management” is one of the medical travesties of our time. The fact is, the medical profession has not done a decent job of understanding and successfully treating pain.


19 posted on 11/11/2015 11:42:42 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
That’s the fraud. It is not genuine medical need.

Some of it isn't and some of it is - the latter is not fraud.

20 posted on 11/11/2015 11:42:50 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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