Posted on 11/04/2015 7:13:27 AM PST by ghost of stonewall jackson
There are plenty of reasons to be cautious of national polls that show Trump and Carson leading. They may fail to screen out casual voters, for instance, and leaders at this point in past years have eventually tanked. But perhaps the biggest reason to ditch stock in these polls is that theyâre simulating a national vote that will never take place.
In reality, the GOP nominating contest will be decided by an intricate, state-by-state slog for the 2,472 delegates at stake between February and June. And thanks to the Republican National Committeeâs allocation rules, the votes of âBlue Zoneâ Republicans â the more moderate GOP primary voters who live in Democratic-leaning states and congressional districts â could weigh more than those of more conservative voters who live in deeply red zones. Put another way: The Republican voters who will have little to no sway in the general election could have some of the most sway in the primary.
As The New York Timesâ Nate Cohn astutely observed in January, Republicans in blue states hold surprising power in the GOP presidential primary process even though they are âall but extinct in Washington, since their candidates lose general elections to Democrats.â This explains why Republicans have selected relatively moderate presidential nominees while the partyâs members in Congress have continued to veer right.
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GOP delegate shenanigans is always a factor, the Romney nod is evident of this. Trump must have yuge numbers early on to counter this.
Starve them.
Withhold all funds from the RNC until delegate allocation is corrected.
Trump would blow that sky high.
This is ridiculous. The way it ought to be is weighted — everybody’s primary vote counts toward 1 delegate so everybody gets some representation, but with +1 weight for each GOP federal office (Represenative, Senator, Presidential electors in previous election). That way, the blue-state primary votes would count for one each while red-region votes would count up to five each.
Good point, and so many Republican primary voters just aren’t “republican”.
I’ve been saying pretty much this since the process started.
The rules are set so that Bush, whatever his national % will likely get his required-for-consideration majorities in those Democrat state primaries and and the several conservative candidates are each unlikely to get those 8 in the rest. Without 8, which number was selected to screen out the conservatives even if a conservative has the majority of all delegates won so long as he doesn’t have 8 outright majorities. If Bush crashes out then Rubio drops neatly right into the same position. In the extreme the Gope candidate doesn’t have to get a single vote in the primaries in states that are expected to vote or who lean Republican so long as he gets his 8 majorities in the ineffectual states. That also fits Republican strategy to ensure an electoral loss in November. The Republican Party, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party is determined to remain as the “opposition” permanently, or at least until the voting population is increased through immigration and the effective legitimization of Democrat vote fraud to usher in the Permanent Democrat Total State. Then the Republicans expect to be comfortable pensioned off and rewarded with high positions in the new State. The reality attested to in History is that the Republicans will then become the first victims in the Show Trials that will ensue and serve the Democrat Party yet again as object lessons for the population.
The reality is that Jeb is finished,Rubio is up and down.
What if Jeb drops out first?
The G.O.P.e. maintains open primaries so that Liberal Democrats can cross over to vote for their preferred leftist RINOs.
If Trump, Carson or Cruz win the nomination, the GOPe will push for Hitlery to take on Jeb for her VP.
Blah, blah, blah. This country would be better off firing 98% of all journalists. There’s a big difference between journalists and reporters. Too bad we don’t have any of the later.
From the looks of it Rubio will inherit the GOPe imprimatur. That might be the source of the apparent animosity displayed by Bush toward Rubio. Perhaps it has already been decided.
I’m a hugh Ted Cruz fan but here lately I’m beginning to wonder if we don’t need both men. Trump will not play 2nd fiddle to anyone. If it looked like he would lose I think he would just drop out. He’d never accept VP under anyone. So, going forward I really think we should be pushing for a Trump/Cruz ticket. Trump would benefit from Cruz (during his administration) far more than with any other candidate running. If some miracle happened and Cruz wins the nomination I have no idea who he would pick as a VP. So going forward I think that is our strongest ticket. It would get the libertarians and even some Dem voters for Trump and the conservative evangelical votes for Cruz. What do you all think?
Unless Rubio drops out first.
That’s a pretty good summary. I sure hope it doesn’t play out that way but I think you nailed the GOPe’s thinking.
I was/am hoping Bush would not drop out until after the FL primary as he might tend to take vote from Rubio and thus allow a win by Trump or Cruz.
Hey, I heard your handle mentioned on Friday’s Mark Levin show. Congrats!
Bingo. You're thinking strategically. It's light years ahead of many freepers, who still think they should trash all other R candidates but the one who is their personal favorite, regardless of whether he can get elected.
Fixed.
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