Posted on 11/03/2015 7:04:14 PM PST by tcrlaf
Ohio voters have rejected a ballot measure seeking to legalize recreational and medical marijuana use in the state.
Failure of the proposed constitutional amendment follows an expensive campaign, a legal fight over its ballot wording and an investigation into the proposal's petition signatures.
And it’s also a misplaced-morality item. Like the gun, the weed can’t jump up and seize anybody. Someone has to be coaxed somehow into wanting to take it and do wrong things with it. If you factor God out of the equation for a major public policy issue (and inconveniently, He has not just put a blanket condemnation on pot any more than on alcohol) then you are automatically going the way of folly.
Maybe the country has to use this as a crutch, to forestall utterly falling on its behind. But if it DID fall on its behind, it would be the most unmistakable sign to date that it needed to embrace God posthaste. I would aver that trying to embrace measures other than what is founded squarely on God is to ask for godlessness trouble further down the road.
Very true. People need purpose and structure. Failing that, they’re going to find something to fill the void.
And this quest ultimately ends up at God’s doorstep, if pursued with intellectual integrity. However there are dangers encountered on the way.
The bible has posited an explanation that I’ve never seen improved upon. People (as a group, somehow capable at that point of accord and communication between souls, else other theology in the bible would not make sense) accepted a premise from the devil that they could craft their own moral realities. This made people feel super important while at the same time putting a huge chasm between themselves and God, who kept on insisting that the only valid moral realities were what He instituted. No Einstein is needed to perceive that this is a recipe for tragedy.
Agree. You had to vote no on one then yes on the other. If it had been one prop, it would have carried. I voted for it. But the anti-pot group successfully scrambled up the props so that it wasn’t clear what you were voting for.
The ones already making bank off prohibition tried to make their currently illegal monopoly legal by writing it into law!
A pleasant surprise to see this morning.
It tweren’t even close! Wow!
Who would pay for it if they could grow it themselves?
And the federal government is letting the criminals in at the border, and expanding their power and influence into state local police departments, effectively co-opting them into a national police force.
You are delusional if you don’t think th WOD hasn’t fundamentally transformed our police departments, our law, and our liberties. How does sending a 20 yr old kid to prison for possessing pot make us a better society? How does restrictions on how you handle money make us a safer society? How does proving your ID just to buy meds that can be used illicitly make us a better society? All fallout of WOD.
And, as a conservative, I not only believe in a restricted government that doesn’t trample my (or your) liberties, I believe in personal responsibility.
Funny how someone can prove the opinion piece you wrote was propaganda, so you run to another tact.
Here is reality, CO has probably the hottest economy in the nation right now, proudly touting a 4% unemployment rate, and the hottest real estate market.
Yeah, all of those negative impacts of legalized marijuana.
Yes, there are bums on the street in Denver; there have always been bums on the street. People smoked pot here before 2012 (we had legal medical marijuana), and we functioned. People legally smoke pot now, we function.
If anything, your support of nanny-state government leads to hells like the current state of Mexico.
The idea that keeping something illegal will keep us safe is the same mental illness that gun control advocates have.
One of the big negatives is that it would have created 10 farms that would have a monopoly on the production and cultivation of the marijuana. These 10 farms were not to be choes by lottery but by political connections.
You know, MJ has its problems. We had a man supposedly get too high off of a hash oil brownie here and kill his wife. But, he had other, underlying medical/mental issues.
But, when you see, over the years, the destruction that legal alcohol has wreaked on our society, it is overwhelming. Yet the same people screaming for illegal pot would kill you if you took away their wine or beer.
And, it is legal to brew alcohol at home in CO. It has spawned an amazing craft beer business in this country. Instead of going to a “pub” to drink the same old same old, you go to craft brewery bars and try out their combinations.
The other day I accompanied some coworkers to one of them by work; they had a pepper beer; a champagne beer. Since I don’t drink (or smoke pot), I have to take their word for how interesting the experience is.
Here in MO, the profit motive was creating abuses, so the legislature passed a law that said all asset forfeiture proceeds would go to the schools.
So the DEA came up with a system where the local police would call in the DEA to do the asset seizures, then kick back some of the money to the local PD under some kind of federal "revenue sharing" program, circumventing the state law and keeping the schools from getting the money.
I take it you didn’t vote in Ohio yesterday. I did. Issue 3 specificially set up monopolies for the sale and distribution of Marijuana. Here’s the opening paragraph:
“endow exclusive rights for commercial marijuana growth, cultivation, and extraction to self-designated landowners who own ten predetermined parcels of land in Butler, Clermont, Franklin, Hamilton, Licking, Lorain, Lucas, Delaware, Stark and Summit Counties. One additional grown facility may be allowed for in four years only if existing facilities cannot meet consumer demand.”
“Endow exclusive rights” — it was about setting up a monopoly.
Good question. Why did 10 cronies of the state spend millions to try to get their ‘network’ enshrined in state law if they didn’t expect a payoff?
Putting a crony monopoly in a state constitution is not a picayune issue. That very issue was additionally voted on as Issue #2, and it also won.
So, those who voted down Issue 3 also voted down Issue 2. It was a huge factor.
That is NOT to say that they also opposed the legalization of marijuana, but they sure as heck didn’t want to have it legal AND give a few cronies a constitutional right to get rich off of their vote.
EXACTLY!
Praying and hoping and wishing and fingers crossed that the big money machines aren’t gonna be able to push both of the initiatives through but we saw what happened with the petition drive and how many sigs they gathered for both. Of course petition sigs and actual votes aren’t the same thing.
The VERY title of Issue 3 included the word MONOPOLY.
I am exactly and 100% correct.
This is the title: Issue 3
Grants a monopoly for the commercial production and sale of marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes
Proposed Constitutional Amendment
These are the cronies given a constitutionally mandated cartel:
| LLC | AKA | Owner(s) | County | Acres |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 76826771 | Abhang Co. LLC | Dr. Suresh Gupta, Alan Mooney | Licking | 35.03 acres |
| 76826772 | WF Green Investments LLC | William Foster, Frostee Rucker, Oscar Robertson | Hamilton | 24.47 acres |
| 76826773 | Grow 2015-768 LLC | Bobby George | Lorain | 76.83 acres |
| 76826774 | DGF LLC | Frank Wood | Clermont | 13.43 acres |
| 76826775 | Bridge Property Group LLC | David Bastos | Lucas | 28.46 acres |
| 76826776 | Ohioven LLC | Jennifer Doering | Delaware | 24.95 acres |
| 76826777 | Verdure GCE LLC | William "Cheney" Pruett, John Humphreys, Nick Lachey | Summit | 29.01 acres |
| 76826778 | NG Green Investments | Nanette Lapore, Barbara Gould, Paul Heldman, Woody Taft, Dudley Taft Jr. | Butler | 40.44 acres |
| 76826779 | Prestoncox Industries | Rick Kirk | Franklin | 19.12 acres |
| GTI Ohio | GTI Investors LLC | Ben Kovler, Peter Kadens | Stark | 27.18 acres |
See #119
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