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Top Senators Question IRS Use Of Secret Cellphone Tracking Technology
Newsmax ^ | 10/29/2015 | Todd Beamon

Posted on 10/30/2015 6:34:57 AM PDT by unixfox

Two top senators Thursday demanded that the Obama administration explain why the Internal Revenue Service is using technology to secretly track cellphones that is normally the domain of law-enforcement agencies.

The move by Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa and Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont followed IRS Commissioner John Koskinen's admission to the Senate Finance Committee on Tuesday that the agency uses the technology.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: Iowa; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: chuckgrassley; incometaxes; iowa; irs; johnkoskinen; newsmax; patrickleahy; surveillancestate; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja; toddbeamon; vermont
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To: unixfox; All

LOL. The show must go on. Today’s theatre in the rotunda is a Kabuki Pole Dance.


21 posted on 10/30/2015 7:42:33 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is self-abuse - without the pleasure.)
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To: TexasGunLover

Lol. Yeah, I guess the IRS protects us from “cold war situations” and various collapses in civilizations.


22 posted on 10/30/2015 7:45:12 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: TexasGunLover
If you were in briefings where you had been told that these methods had saved millions of US citizen lives, would you still feel that way?

I knew the IRS was powerful, but - just WOW. If those meetings had also revealed perhaps a cold war situation, or a silent, state based enemy was behind these attacks and that exposure or public knowledge of that situation could bring a collapse in civilization, would you still feel that way?

OMG - they must be far more the just Internal Revenue. I mean, they sound like the last bastion of freedom!

Please take my money ....

23 posted on 10/30/2015 8:03:50 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: unixfox

Isn’t Koskinen the guy that senile old fool Orrin Hatch said he admires...?


24 posted on 10/30/2015 8:40:15 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: 1010RD
It’s a puppet show for our consumption.

I reached the conclusion a few years back under the Darrell Issa puppet shows that ALL OF WASHINGTON IS KABUKI THEATER FOR THE MASSES.

When I see Shrillary in an orange jump suit I might sit up and reconsider whether America can truly be saved from this cesspool of crime it has become.
25 posted on 10/30/2015 9:08:01 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: unixfox

why on god’s green earth does the IRS need this technology?


26 posted on 10/30/2015 9:12:37 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: G Larry
If anybody thinks Ted Cruz’s idea of abolishing the IRS is a little far fetched....uh....it’s actually the only fix for their current TYRANNY!

Indeed, Ted has sid the words "abolish the IRS", but from what I can see of his plan, it doesn't even attack that issue at all. What it does is rejigger the rates down to a mostly "flat" rate. This is something I can support. However, it does nothing to "abolish" the IRS, because it's still based on income. The biggest mass of IRS regulations concern the reporting of income, and what is and isn't considered "income" for the purposes of the tax. All of the 4th and 5th amendment-destroying qualities of the current IRS would still exist under this plan, though it would admittedly, and thankfully have lower rates and fewer deductions.

If one actually wants to abolish the IRS, you have to go with a different method of taxation entirely. My personal favorite is the national retail sales tax (NRST). The NRST gets rid of the reporting requirement altogether. You pay sales tax just like you do on practically everything today. All the mechanisms are already in place to collect the tax, so you don't need any new swarms of agents. If you dump the income tax (and repeal the constitutional amendment allowing it), that would destroy the IRS as we know it.

I'm a Cruz supporter, (he's the only one I've sent money to), but this plan is not a tool to destroy the IRS. Even if we were to go back to the original 1913 rates, it wouldn't get rid of the IRS.We'd merely be rolling the rates back (granted, to rates that are much more reasonable than todays rates) but it isn't accomplishing what we want.

27 posted on 10/30/2015 9:31:57 AM PDT by zeugma (Teach your child a love for motorcycles, and he'll never have money for drugs.)
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To: Cheerio

[the Darrell Issa puppet shows]

yep


28 posted on 10/30/2015 1:46:08 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: TexasGunLover
If you were in briefings where you had been told that these methods had saved millions of US citizen lives, would you still feel that way?

We are talking about a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION called the IRS. Not the Dept. of Defense or Homeland Security.

If you trust them, then by all means be my guest.

Just sayin.

29 posted on 10/30/2015 1:51:16 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: TexasGunLover; null and void
I assure you, they weigh far heavier on you.

Obama in one hand, TexasGunLover's "ass-urances" in the other.

All ya got is a handful of feces. Or two. :)

Everybody on Free Republic knows that Nully is a Defender of Freedom.

We don't know about YOU.

30 posted on 10/30/2015 3:00:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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To: Godzilla; TexasGunLover; null and void
why on god’s green earth does the IRS need this technology?

You need to post your SSN so's teh IRS can answer yer concerns personally...

It's prolly got sumthin to do wit cold war situations, silent, state based enemys, or clapses in civilizashun, or all of dem.

31 posted on 10/30/2015 3:05:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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To: TexasGunLover

It depends on your POV. Do you consider living in a police state civilized?


32 posted on 10/30/2015 3:34:23 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: unixfox

Well, isn’t it obvious why they’re doing this??? The phones are not paying their fair share of taxes!


33 posted on 10/30/2015 7:23:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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To: null and void

yeah sure thing....that’ll go no where


34 posted on 10/30/2015 8:01:15 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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