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1 posted on 10/23/2015 4:23:01 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

Not buying it. Or are these the 4 million crybabies who sat home in 2012?


2 posted on 10/23/2015 4:24:58 AM PDT by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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Doesnt make sense. Carson selling books, Trump packing arenas. Whats up?
5 posted on 10/23/2015 4:37:00 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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Boy they love Americans of African descent in Iowa. The democratic caucus of 08 is where it all started with race baiters shaming fellow Dhimmicrats into giving the black guy a chance...”It’s Time” (BTW I would love a black president, like Colonel West or Herman Cain).

Well that happened.....TWICE...so pick the most qualified this time Iowa.

3 things I would like to put in a constitutional amendment. Primaries not Caucuses (one man one vote) and a National Primary Day. All across the nation one day to vote in the primaries . And finally NO EARLY VOTING. unless you can bring a notarized letter stating you will be out of state or seriously handicapped . Then and only the. Will you get an absentee ballot


6 posted on 10/23/2015 4:37:13 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Ridiculous

He is totally unqualified and even, for the most part, unknown as to his leadership qualities

A Republican for one year

And a man who already hints at deep racial grievances that could affect his domestic policies

No thanks


8 posted on 10/23/2015 4:43:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: GIdget2004

I get people supporting Carson since he is an outsider, but I can’t support him due to his anti-2nd amendment and pro-amnesty stances.


11 posted on 10/23/2015 4:46:13 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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First it was Jeb. The it was Carly. Now it’s Dr. Ben. The RNC is going to run out of shooting stars at some point.


14 posted on 10/23/2015 4:53:09 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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Something is missing. This does not jive with the large crowds at Trump rallies. I do think Carson is doing well in Iowa, but I am leery of a self created narrative from the media. also, the trend is opposite of the national.


15 posted on 10/23/2015 4:54:25 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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I see no reason to get either excited or upset because “Carson leaps ahead of Trump”.
Much to my chagrin, neither will be the Republican nominee.

I still fully expect Jeb to be the sacrificial lamb next November.
I do not think the Republican party wants to win the presidency. With both the House and the Senate (for two years at least) that would be too much responsibility.
Remember the Republican party has spent damn near a century being the minority party with a few presidents thrown in to keep us happy.

19 posted on 10/23/2015 4:57:54 AM PDT by Tupelo (Honest men may go to Washington, but Honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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I see no reason to get either excited or upset because “Carson leaps ahead of Trump”.
Much to my chagrin, neither will be the Republican nominee.

I still fully expect Jeb to be the sacrificial lamb next November.
I do not think the Republican party wants to win the presidency. With both the House and the Senate (for two years at least) that would be too much responsibility.
Remember the Republican party has spent damn near a century being the minority party with a few presidents thrown in to keep us happy.

20 posted on 10/23/2015 4:58:12 AM PDT by Tupelo (Honest men may go to Washington, but Honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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Neither of the two recent Iowa polls surprise me. Iowa caucus is normally an extremely evangelical outcome. I never thought Trump would eventually prevail there.

It’s exactly the kind of state that would choose someone like Carson (or Huckabee, or Santorum - see the similarities?)

I also don’t think that hurts Trump much, despite the desperate plea from the GOPe and MSM that it should.

If the election were held today, I think Trump would lose Iowa and pretty much run the table everywhere else. Since I’m a Cruz supporter, that’s not the outcome I want.

Nevertheless, I can support Trump or Carson. I disagree with Carson’s 2nd Amendment views, but I don’t think the NRA backed GOPe is going to send him anything anti-2A.


22 posted on 10/23/2015 5:01:03 AM PDT by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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Carson saved his campaign when he went after the Muslims.


24 posted on 10/23/2015 5:03:55 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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It’s the Bible belt. Santorum won Iowa last time.


29 posted on 10/23/2015 5:08:29 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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I’m sure the polls by Quinnipiac and Bloomberg are correct, no need to embarass our(Trumpian)selves saying they are not. The sample in one was 401 likely GOP caucus-goers the other was 574 likely Iowa Republican caucus participants. The real question to ask is why? Is this the only sliver of righties where Carson is up? Is this a trend ? Are these devoted GOPers that hate Trump? The dearth of Carson supporters here in FR does make it seem odd though. The Trump crowds make it seem odd for sure.


33 posted on 10/23/2015 5:15:29 AM PDT by major-pelham
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This is a caucus poll. It is not a general public poll.

This was a caucus.


34 posted on 10/23/2015 5:16:01 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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I’m a Cruz supporter who appreciates what Trump is doing thus far, and have great respect for some of the other good candidates we have. The folks who support Trump should realize he doesn’t hsve to run the table to run a way with the nomination.

Winning in Iowa is the strategy often employed by a dark horse acndidate to stay in the game. This worked for Jimmy Carter in 1976, when there was a similarly large and fractured field (Jerry Brown, Frank Church, Mo Udall, Scoop Jackson, Hubert Humphrey, George Wallace, Sgt. Shriver, Milton Shapp, Fred Harris). This was also employed by George the Elder in 1980, and his win there separated him from Howard Baker, John B. Anderson and Bob Dole. Pat Robertson made a strong showing there in ‘88 to keep him in the top tier and a presence at the convention. More recently, Huckabee and Santorum won the vote there to make it into the top tier.

Except for Democrat Carter, IT NEVER WORKED. Moreover, New Hampshire likes vetoing the anointed folks from Iowa. McCain in 2000 over George the Younger, Reagan over George the Elder in 1980, McCain over Santorum big in 2008.

If Carson wins Iowa, Trump will have every opportunity to make a YUUUUGE win in New Hampshire. He ain’t Howard Dean.

If anti-Trump beats Trump in New Hampshire (that is, if Trump doesn’t pick up more support as the field winnows), then he won’t win the nomination anyway. Right now, Trump is in an enviable position.


37 posted on 10/23/2015 5:18:51 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Carson is not the one folks...pay attention.


41 posted on 10/23/2015 5:23:52 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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This is the 2nd Iowa poll now that shows Carson leading Trump fairly big. And another new polls shows Carson leading Trump and Rubio in Wisconsin.

So suddenly Carson is surging a bit and Trump is deflating. What caused it? I doubt this apparent change happened for no reason.

I wonder if maybe Trump’s swing through trutherville by blaming Bush for 9-11 soured many voters view of “the Donald”. I don’t think most Republicans and almost no conservatives want Jeb for President, but I do believe most still admire brother Bush for his handling of 9-11. Trump may have crossed a line that pushed a lot of Republican voters away from him.


42 posted on 10/23/2015 5:24:24 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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Believe the polls you like and disbelieve the polls you don’t like. No problem.


50 posted on 10/23/2015 5:37:27 AM PDT by randita
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Ben Carson is currently the GOPe weapon of choice (whether he realizes it or not) to counter Trump. I've been hearing about how "nice" and "smart" Carson is for weeks now, and it is simply Iowa's Republican cattle being herded by the GOPe... with some help from evangelicals who couldn't tell wolves from sheep if they had their left butt cheeks bitten off and gotten polite thank you notes from the wolf rolled up and left in their sphincters. At this time, bloody few of these precious boobs have any idea what Carson actually says or thinks, he's simply "that nice man" whose name they keep hearing.

Trump still has more Dem and Indy support than I would have believed possible, and I'm not too sure he isn't still out front in Iowa by a fair amount (regardless of these polls), but he is being hammered on by the GOPe out here. You certainly know who he's scaring the USCofC poop out of.

Mr. niteowl77

52 posted on 10/23/2015 5:43:43 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("I wish I had better news for you, but the truth is that this thing is not worth fixing anymore.")
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This poll was designed to get Ben Carson ahead of Donald Trump. Bloomberg and the Des Moines Register asked a serious of questions that are overwhelmingly favorable for Carson.

It's a big time push poll:


60 posted on 10/23/2015 5:51:55 AM PDT by Red Steel
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