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Re: The Trump/Bush 9/11 keeping America safe debate

Posted on 10/18/2015 12:23:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Regardless of who may be right or wrong on the current Trump/Bush keeping America safe debate, the bottom line is whose policies would you rather have in place going forward and which will keep America safer? Trump's deport and secure the border policy or Bush's amnesty and open borders?


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KEYWORDS: 911; aliens; amnesty; borders; bush; deport; illegals; immigration; nationalsecurity; secureborders; terrorists; trump
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To: AAABEST

PRICELESS! WHAHHHHHH! :)


181 posted on 10/18/2015 4:24:28 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Pirate Ragnar

I’ll be very happy if the race is narrowed down to Trump vs Cruz.


182 posted on 10/18/2015 4:24:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: dynoman

A liberal is a liberal is a liberal.

I voted for my last one in 2012.


183 posted on 10/18/2015 4:27:40 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: dynoman

Support Trump till you fall over. I don’t care.


184 posted on 10/18/2015 4:28:21 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Jim Robinson
I’ll be very happy if the race is narrowed down to Trump vs Cruz.

I'd be ecstatic. Anything to avoid a repeat of 2008 and 2012

185 posted on 10/18/2015 4:29:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: Jim Robinson

He has. For that I give him credit, and my heartfelt thanks. But I don’t see that I should have to for my gratitude with a vote for the presidency of the United States.


186 posted on 10/18/2015 4:30:26 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

No problem. Go, Cruz, GO!! But Trump is greatly preferable over Bush or any other GOPe amnesty pimp. As I said, it’s a no brainer.


187 posted on 10/18/2015 4:33:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

To me, trump vs. Bush means we already lost.


188 posted on 10/18/2015 4:37:50 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: cripplecreek; MinuteGal; flaglady47; Jane Long; hoosiermama; onyx; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; ...
long held democrat talking points makes Trump sound like he’s in it to help the democrats.

I am googling furiously to find out which democrat candidate has agenda to:

(1) Deport ALL illegals

(2) Build a real Wall on southern border

(3) Cancel Obamacare

(4) Re-negotiate all foreign trade deals, especially with China & Mexico

(5) Cut out department of Education and eliminate Common Core

(6) Seriously trim power of EPA to bamboozle small & medium size businesses

(7) Propose serious tax cuts for the middle class

I am not having any luck finding these democrat candidates. Can you help?

189 posted on 10/18/2015 4:44:32 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his/her rich donors!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

On Trump’s Second Amendment position paper alone he’s not a liberal.


190 posted on 10/18/2015 4:51:21 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Jim Robinson

“””the absurdity of Bush and the GOPe’s amnesty/open borders policy. And we can thank Trump for bringing it to the center ring in this campaign.”””


How soon people forget that as of June 1 the only candidate unequivocally opposing illegal immigration was Ted Cruz. Then Trump threw his hat in the ring.

Trump has also made Common Core a major issue to oppose. Again, Cruz was the only candidate consistently opposing Common Core.

These two subjects and several others that are near and dear to Conservative Hearts are now being discussed because
Trump headlined the issues.

Without Trump in the race we would still be back to the daily grind of “will Jeb beat Hillary or vice versa.”


191 posted on 10/18/2015 5:16:03 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: entropy12

Not only are you not having any luck finding Democrat Candidates advocating for those issues, most of the GOPe candidates also come up lacking.


192 posted on 10/18/2015 5:18:39 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: RoosterRedux
No, we just got his stated positions...

Trump is pro-lifeplanned-parenthood
and will repeal replace Obamacare with socialized trumpcare

Do you have a different opinion?

193 posted on 10/18/2015 5:20:03 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: sitetest

Can’t agree with your logic there. If we beat the GOPe amnesty pimps in the primary we have a shot at winning for the long run. If we fail to beat amnesty, our Republic is in for a long losing spell. Amnesty and open borders means a flood of new democrat/socialist voters.


194 posted on 10/18/2015 5:26:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: sitetest

Have you watched any Trump rallies?

Try the end of this one; https://youtu.be/GaiXO5HbHpk?t=2990

No-one is energizing crowds like Trump, except maybe Sanders. No one.

The beginning of that rally is good too, he brings an employee on stage and introduces her.


195 posted on 10/18/2015 5:27:17 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

His position paper? Really?

How about HIS BOOK.

where he was for increased waiting periods for guns

And banning ‘assault guns’...

Once he is in office, he owes you now loyalty and will revert to his true liberal self.


196 posted on 10/18/2015 5:30:28 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: dynoman

Yeah, cause that is how we pick our candidates.

Big Obama fan much? He had a lot of rally energy too.


197 posted on 10/18/2015 5:37:30 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Pikachu_Dad

‘How about HIS BOOK. where he was for increased waiting periods for guns
And banning ‘assault guns’...’

Link?


198 posted on 10/18/2015 5:38:45 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Check out post 195. :)

It’s truly amazing.


199 posted on 10/18/2015 5:38:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Did you actually watch the video?? If you did you would not make such a shallow comment. Obama never said what Trump says, Obama hasn’t done what Trump has done, Obama never held the positions Trump holds. Obama made no sacrifice to be president. Like Ann Colter said Reagan, Trump, and Romney are the only candidates who’s lives would be made immeasurably worse by being president. Trump is not the selfish narcissist Obama is.


200 posted on 10/18/2015 5:43:30 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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