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Sadly, Deven Guilford probably got exactly what he deserved
Detroit Free Press, Hot Air.com ^ | October 17, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 10/17/2015 11:28:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

We unfortunately have another police shooting of an unarmed teenage suspect back in the news, though this one took place much earlier in the year. (Before the SJW and BLM get their knickers in a bunch, don’t worry… the kid was white.) Back in February, teenager Deven Guilford was pulled over in Mulliken, located in Eaton County, Michigan. The cause for the stop was the fact that Guilford had flashed his high beams at a cop coming in the opposite direction, so we’re not exactly talking about an international crime spree here. But upon being approached by Officer Jonathan Frost and asked for his license and other normal documents, Deven took it upon himself to refuse and demanded to know why he was being “detained.”

Things went from normal to bad to horrible pretty quickly. Upon being told to exit the vehicle and facing arrest, an altercation took place which wound up with Deven being shot seven times. He did not survive the injuries. No action was taken against the cop and now Devin’s parents are taking the matter to court. (Detroit Free Press)

The family of a 17-year-old Mulliken teen shot who was shot and killed by an Eaton County Sheriff’s sergeant following a February traffic stop filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday against the county and the police officer.

Deven Guilford’s parents, Brian and Becky Guilford, said in a statement that their trust in law enforcement was “shaken to the core” by the shooting.

“As we take this action today we are outraged at the huge miscarriage of justice done to our son Deven Guilford,” they said.

Without any more supporting information that certainly sounds pretty bad. But fortunately for all of us, this was another case where the officer was wearing a body camera for the encounter and recorded all of the activities until the equipment was eventually smashed. (More on that below.) The video has now been released and if you watch the roughly five minutes applicable to the case (below) I think you’ll see that this entire fiasco was completely avoidable… and it was Deven who could have prevented it, not the cop. I should offer the usual warning that the content may be disturbing to some readers, though it doesn’t actually show the moment of death.

Deven Guilford Shooting: 17-year-old Tasered, Shot, Killed by Police [Cellphone Bodycam VIDEO]

Just to see how culpable the officer might have been and the attitude he took, you need look no further than the opening gambit as Officer Frost approaches the driver side of the car and begins the conversation with Guilford.

Frost: Hello. Need your drivers license, registration and proof of insurance please. The reason I pulled you over today was because you flashed me. I didn’t even have my brights on.

Guilford: Yes you did sir.

At this point, Frost’s tone is nothing but friendly. The only “weapon” he has in hand is a flashlight. He greets the kid, asks for the totally normal documents which cops ask for in every traffic stop and immediately lets him know why he was pulled over. Let’s stop and ask ourselves a question here. If this kid had simply handed over his license and registration, would this have ended in anything other than a warning and sending him on his way? The parents are claiming that it was an “unlawful stop” to begin with, but in fact it is illegal in Michigan to flash your high beams at another driver within 500 feet. It’s a civil infraction that carries a 2-point penalty on your license so yes, you can be pulled over for it.

From that point the officer continues to ask for the documents several more times, growing increasingly frustrated as Guilford continues to refuse, pulling out his phone to record the conversation and then attempting to place a phone call. At that point Frost is clearly fed up and orders Deven out of the car. He refuses to comply and at that point the officer pulls his taser and threatens to use it. Finally Guilford gets down on the ground after much additional arguing, but won’t comply with the commands given so that he can be placed under arrest. That’s when all hell breaks loose.

Guilford is resisting and Frost finally fires his taser, but for some reason it doesn’t work. Deven breaks lose and begins attacking the officer. In the muddled final frames of video you can see him, not running away, but in Frost’s face with his fists raised. The body camera is damaged in the attack but there’s still audio in which you hear shots ring out. Here’s what Officer Frost looked like in the ambulance immediately after the event.

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We always hear from the Social Justice Warriors about the need for cops to approach people in a more human fashion and the importance of training so they can “deescalate” tense situations. I lost track of the number of times Frost calmly asked for the documents and then how many warnings he issued to try to get the kid to calm down and follow instructions. We’re also told that hot under the collar cops are supposed to hold back and never use deadly force unless they honestly feel they are in real danger of death or injury. Frost tried to go to the taser first before resorting to his service weapon while under attack. There is absolutely nothing in this video record which indicates that Officer Frost violated any of these guidelines.

In the end, Deven Guilford wound up dead. And it was entirely the fault of Deven Guilford from what I can see. <


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: devenguilford; eatoncounty; michigan; mulliken; police; policeshooting; traffic
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1 posted on 10/17/2015 11:28:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The cop looks a little bit like Zimmerman after Trayvon Martin worked him over.


3 posted on 10/17/2015 11:33:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I've switched. Trump is my #1. He understands how to get things done. Cruz can be VP.)
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To: Kaslin

Apparently a bunch of people passed the same cop and said his brights were indeed on. Seems like the cop set up a sting waiting for someone to flash him for an easy ticket, but instead got a teenager who refused to accept his lie, but was too high on weed to realize that not accepting the cop’s lie was not an option.


4 posted on 10/17/2015 11:36:04 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kaslin

Deven was a POS punk.


5 posted on 10/17/2015 11:38:59 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (I will not worship at the alter of Diversity.)
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To: Talisker
It is also worth noting that the cop later said that he (the cop) was worried that the kid might be a militia member. What an odd thing to say, given that there seems to have been no reason to think that.
6 posted on 10/17/2015 11:43:29 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: RWGinger
"the office only went all copper on the kid because of the kid’s attitude"

It wasn't simply his attitude. It was Deven's refusal to show his license and other documents. That's not something that's negotiable.

7 posted on 10/17/2015 11:44:53 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (I will not worship at the alter of Diversity.)
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To: Kaslin

The final images after the kid was on the ground were too muddled for me to see what happened later. I assume the kid got up and attacked the cop. Was the kid running away when the cop shot him, or was he still attacking the cop?


8 posted on 10/17/2015 11:50:23 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Talisker

I don’t see weed mentioned in the article. Cite?


9 posted on 10/17/2015 11:51:36 AM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: Kaslin

Seven shots were necessary?

Tray von Martin deserved what he eventually gothe from George Zimmerman.

But if Zimmerman had hit Martin with seven bullets, he wouldn’t have been acquitted.

Police need to be held at least to the same standards as civilians.

Verdict: voluntary manslaughter; 10 years in maximum security prison, all loss of benefits.


10 posted on 10/17/2015 11:51:47 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Kaslin

I had a neighbor a good while back that were total AH’s, and they had a son named Deven. I guess that they moved to MI.


11 posted on 10/17/2015 11:51:59 AM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO strategy: anti-American, anti-Western, pro-Islamic, pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood.)
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To: Artemis Webb
It was Deven's refusal to show his license and other documents. That's not something that's negotiable.

I can't help thinking the kid had something in the car he did not want discovered.

But the whole thing could have been avoided if he had simply handed the cop his license and registration. Why argue with a cop? The kid admitted he flashed his lights within 500 feet of another car which is a violation in Michigan. The cop had a perfect right to stop him. File a protest later.

12 posted on 10/17/2015 11:54:48 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: sparklite2

It is in another article (weed): “The inquiry also found Guilford had traces of marijuana in his system.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275534/Devastated-relatives-file-lawsuit-against-sheriff-s-deputy-shot-dead-unarmed-teenager-flashed-car-lights-him.html

When you decide to beat the hell out of a cop, you gotta expect some bad things to follow. Ask Mike Brown. Oh yeah...he can’t answer.


13 posted on 10/17/2015 11:58:35 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: sitetest

The 7 shots came in 4 seconds.


14 posted on 10/17/2015 11:59:16 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: driftless2
then why poke the bear if you're riding dirty?
15 posted on 10/17/2015 12:01:17 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: driftless2
I can't help thinking the kid had something in the car he did not want discovered.

Possibly. But I'm betting that the kid was confused as hell, and a bit upset. He tried to do something nice - warn another motorist that his high-beams were on - and for his troubles he gets stopped by the police.

Sure, you should obey every police command, and sort things out later. No doubt about that. But this kid was set-up. Not for a shooting, but for a ticket. That's what got this whole thing rolling.

16 posted on 10/17/2015 12:01:27 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: sparklite2

Different article, don’t remember where, but the fact stuck in my mind.


17 posted on 10/17/2015 12:02:45 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Thanks.


18 posted on 10/17/2015 12:04:16 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: Talisker

You argue in court, not on the street.


19 posted on 10/17/2015 12:05:03 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Artemis Webb
Deven was a POS punk.

Shut up. You know no such thing, and you're defaming the dead.

20 posted on 10/17/2015 12:05:06 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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