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US scraps its $500million programme to train 'moderate' Syrian rebels ...
Posted on 10/09/2015 8:46:03 AM PDT by TigerClaws
FULL TITLE: US scraps its $500million programme to train 'moderate' Syrian rebels after producing fewer than 80 soldiers, most of whom were either shot or ran away
The U.S. has scrapped its $500 million program to train moderate rebels after it produced fewer than 80 fighters, most of whom had been killed or fled.
U.S. Defence Secretary Ash Carter said Washington would instead work more closely with capable Kurdish and other forces in Syria.
No details were immediately available, but the programme to train and equip moderate Syrian rebels to fight the Islamic State group is widely considered a failure.
Carter said at a news conference in London that the work the U.S. has done with the Kurds is a good example of an effective approach with a capable, motivated ground combat force.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3266509/US-scraps-500million-programme-train-moderate-Syrian-rebels-producing-fewer-80-soldiers-shot-ran-away.html#ixzz3o5OFg09U Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: acorn; iran; israel; jihad; kgb; lebanon; moneylaundering; patricelumumbaschool; russia; solyndra; syria; waronterror
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My favorite line from the Gang that Wouldn't Shoot Straight was our defense secretary this week calling Russia's incursion into Syria "unprofessional.'
But at least we have the most PC army in the world now, so all is okay in ObamaLand...
Lead from Behind has now become Victory through Retreat.
To: TigerClaws
US scraps its $500million programme to train 'moderate' Syrian rebels ...Decides to go with training Islamic Terrorist Radical "Rebels" directly.
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posted on
10/09/2015 8:50:25 AM PDT
by
Navy Patriot
(America, a Rule of Mob nation)
To: TigerClaws
Where did our tax money go? Surely not to the NINE fighters that were still around by the end of this lousy program. Oh well, if Obama could make $850 billion of his “shovel ready’ stimulus bill disappear, this is just chump change
and as usual, we are the chumps.
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posted on
10/09/2015 8:50:56 AM PDT
by
txrefugee
To: txrefugee
Didn’t Hillary ‘lose’ a billion when she was Secretary of State?
500 million is chump change.
To: txrefugee
Most of whom were shot or ran away.
To: TigerClaws
54 soldiers graduated. The first team of 5 that went out were captured within an hour. The other 49 headed to the hills in their new Toyotas together with their US supplied weapons.
To: TigerClaws
Lead from Behind has now become Victory through Retreat.
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Excellent comment!
They expect us to believe that Russia’s aggression is a reflection of its weakness?
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posted on
10/09/2015 8:52:58 AM PDT
by
Starboard
To: TigerClaws
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posted on
10/09/2015 8:53:25 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
To: TigerClaws
So, basically another Solyndra deal - a half billion dollars worth of bupkas.
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posted on
10/09/2015 8:53:51 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: TigerClaws
Let’s be truthful—the $500 Million was laundered to ISIS by Obola.
Do you know how many Third World people you could train for $500 million?
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posted on
10/09/2015 8:54:14 AM PDT
by
exit82
("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
To: exit82
Do you know how many Third World people you could train for $500 million?Do you know how many economically deprived Americans you could give an Engineering degree to for $500 Million? Rough guess ... about 5,000
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posted on
10/09/2015 8:57:20 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
To: exit82; All
To: TigerClaws
From Aug 23, 2015: "a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the Russian special services have controlled the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions.
In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html
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Understanding Provocation [Provokatsiya]
March 29, 2014
One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya.
While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, theres no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).
Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists [in this case, dupe actual Jihadis -ETL], turning them to your side.
When youre dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isnt often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they dont exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.
While this isnt a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you dont care about bloody and messy consequences. ..."
http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/
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In other words, it's like starting a fire, or pouring gasoline on a fire, in order to be the 'big hero', being first on the scene to put it out. Except in this case, you get to grab control over the buildings and town you helped 'saved' from the fire you helped to start.
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posted on
10/09/2015 8:59:26 AM PDT
by
ETL
(So many idiots, not enough time)
To: TigerClaws
For 16 years Putin was an officer in the KGB, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel before he retired to enter politics in his native Saint Petersburg in 1991.
He moved to Moscow in 1996 and joined President Boris Yeltsins administration where he rose quickly, becoming Acting President on 31 December 1999 when Yeltsin unexpectedly resigned. Putin won the subsequent 2000 presidential election, despite widespread accusations of vote-rigging,[3] and was reelected in 2004.
On 25 July 1998, Yeltsin appointed Vladimir Putin head of the FSB (one of the successor agencies to the KGB), the position Putin occupied until August 1999. He became a permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation on 1 October 1998 and its Secretary on 29 March 1999.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
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posted on
10/09/2015 9:00:51 AM PDT
by
ETL
(So many idiots, not enough time)
To: TigerClaws
From a 2007 article titled "Putin's Russia"...
"KGB influence 'soars under Putin,' " blared the headline of a BBC online article for December 13, 2006. The following day, a similar headline echoed a similarly alarming story at the website of Der Spiegel, one of Germany's largest news magazines: "Putin's Russia: Kremlin Riddled with Former KGB Agents."
In the opening sentences of Der Spiegel's article, readers are informed that: "Four out of five members of Russia's political and business elite have a KGB past, according to a new study by the prestigious [Russian] Academy of Sciences. The influence of ex-Soviet spies has ballooned under President Vladimir Putin."
The study, which looked at 1,061 top Kremlin, regional, and corporate jobs, found that "78 percent of the Russian elite" are what are known in Russia as "siloviki," which is to say, former members of the KGB or its domestic successor, the FSB. The author of the study, Olga Kryshtanovskaya, expressed shock at her own findings. "I was very shocked when I looked at the boards of major companies and realized there were lots of people who had completely unknown names, people who were not public but who were definitely, obvious siloviki," she told Reuters.
Other supposed experts in Russia and the West have also expressed surprise and alarm at the apparent resurrection of the dreaded Soviet secret police. After all, for the past decade and a half these same experts have been pointing to the alleged demise of the KGB as the primary evidence supporting their claim that communism is dead.
From the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, the Russian security apparatus Cheka (and its later permutations: OGPU, NKVD, MGB, KGB) had been the "sword and shield" of the communist world revolution.
"We stand for organized terror," declared Felix Dzerzhinsky, the first chief of the Cheka for Soviet dictator Vladimir Lenin. In 1918, Dzerzhinsky launched the campaign of arrests and executions known as the Red Terror. Krasnaya Gazeta, the Bolshevik newspaper, expressed the Chekist credo when it reported approvingly in 1918 of the terror campaign: "We will make our hearts cruel, hard and immovable, so that no mercy will enter them, and so that they will not quiver at the sight of a sea of enemy blood."
Unflinching cruelty and merciless, bloody terror have been the trademark of the communist secret police, from the Cheka to the KGB. Obviously, the demise of such an organization would be cause for much rejoicing. Hence, when the KGB was ordered dissolved and its chairman, General Vladimir Kryuchkov, was arrested in 1991 after attempting to overthrow "liberal reformer" Mikhail Gorbachev in the failed "August Coup," many people in the West were only too willing to pop the champagne corks and start celebrating our supposed victory over the Evil Empire.
But, as Mikhail Leontiyev, commentator for Russia's state-controlled Channel One television, recently noted, repeating a phrase popular among the siloviki: "Americans got so drunk at the USSR's funeral that they're still hung over." And stumbling around in their post-inebriation haze, many of these Americans have only recently begun noticing that they had prematurely written the KGB's epitaph, even as it was arising vampire-like from the coffin.
However, there is really no excuse for Olga Kryshtanovskaya or any of her American counterparts to be stunned by the current siloviki dominance in Putin's Russia. For nearly a decade, even before he became Russia's "president," THE NEW AMERICAN has been reporting on Putin's KGB pedigree and his steady implementation of a long-range Soviet deception strategy, including the public rehabilitation and refortifying of the KGB-FSB. ..." (continues at link)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8420-putins-russia
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posted on
10/09/2015 9:01:34 AM PDT
by
ETL
(So many idiots, not enough time)
To: TigerClaws
Trump: Iran Deal Requires U.S. Protecting Iran in Event of Israeli Strike
by Jacob Kornbluh
Sept 2, 2015
In a phone interview with CNN Tuesday evening, Trump claimed that theres something in the Iran deal that people dont understand saying if someone attacks Iran, we have to come to their defense.
Does that include Israel? Trump asked. And most people say yes, they dont have an exclusion for Israel. So if Israel attacks Iran, according to that deal, I believe, the way it reads, unless they have a codicil or they have something to it, that we have to fight with Iran against Israel. ..."
Trump was most probably referring to language highlighted by the opponents of the deal. On page 142, the deal includes a clause that states, Co-operation through training and workshops to strengthen Irans ability to protect against, and respond to nuclear security threats, including sabotage, as well as to enable effective and sustainable nuclear security and physical protection systems.
Washington-based Center for Security Policy asserted that Annex III appears to commit the United States and other world powers to the defense of Irans nuclear program.
http://jpupdates.com/2015/09/02/trump-iran-deal-requires-u-s-protecting-iran-in-event-of-israeli-strike/
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Aug 2015...
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Russian build-up in Syria part of secret deal with Irans Quds Force leader
September 11, 2015
Jennifer Griffin, Lucas Tomlinson
FoxNews.com
As the Pentagon warily eyes a Russian military build-up in Syria, Western intelligence sources tell Fox News that the escalated Russian presence began just days after a secret Moscow meeting in late July between Irans Quds Force commander their chief exporter of terror and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Fox News has learned Quds head Qassem Soleimani and Putin discussed such a joint military plan for Syria at that meeting, an encounter first reported by Fox News in early August. ...
The Quds Force is the international arm of Irans Revolutionary Guard, involved in exporting terrorism to Irans proxies throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. ...
Officials who have monitored the build-up say theyve seen more than 1,000 Russian combatants some of them from the same plainclothes Special Forces units who were sent to Crimea and Ukraine. Some of these Russian troops are logistical specialists and needed for security at the expanding Russian bases.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/11/russian-build-up-in-syria-part-secret-deal-with-irans-quds-force-leader/
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posted on
10/09/2015 9:02:46 AM PDT
by
ETL
(So many idiots, not enough time)
To: TigerClaws
From Real Clear Politics, Sept 10, 2015...
"In a 2014 New Yorker interview, Obama said his goal was to create a 'new equilibrium' in the Middle East.
In the short run, at least, his signature diplomatic undertaking can be counted on to bring more violence to this volatile region.
The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, as the [Obama-Putin Iran deal] agreement is formally known, provides the worlds leading state sponsor of terrorism an infusion of somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 billion of unfrozen assets and a great deal more of continuing revenues as businesses and governments around the world rush to profit from oil-and-gas-rich Irans reintegration into the world economy.
The agreement relaxes the international isolation of the Islamic Republic and ratifies Tehrans status as a nuclear threshold state. And it relieves restrictions on Irans acquisition of weapons, including ballistic missiles. ..."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/10/iran_deal_throws_sparks_on_mideast_tinderbox_128034.html
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posted on
10/09/2015 9:03:32 AM PDT
by
ETL
(So many idiots, not enough time)
To: exit82
It would be interesting to know exactly where all this money came from. How was this funded? Who in congress was responsible for allowing this monumental waste by the White Hut?
To: TigerClaws
Will the Pentagon get its Toyota’s back?
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posted on
10/09/2015 9:05:31 AM PDT
by
ColdOne
(I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
To: ColdOne
Will the Pentagon get its Toyotas back?If they do, we'll have to pay to ship them back, then the EPA will pay to have them destroyed because they don't meet US emission regs.
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posted on
10/09/2015 9:09:01 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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