Ted Cruz says Donald Trump won't be Republican nominee

Also, if Cruz’ wife is an issue, what about Trump’s daughter?

http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2015/07/15/ivanka-trump-on-women-equal-pay-and-her-demanding-dad/

“I think that gender is a very real issue around the globe and here domestically, based on wage inequality that is still prevalent in the U.S.,” she said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/presidential-candidate-donald-trump-stance-same-sex-marriage-offends-gay-activist-article-1.122915

...in January his daughter Ivanka Trump reportedly attended the New York City Reception in Support of Freedom to Marry, an organization that’s seeking marriage equality nationwide for same-sex couples.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11865654/Ivanka-Trump-and-Chelsea-Clinton-are-not-so-secretly-friends.html

Ivanka Trump and Chelsea Clinton are (not so) secretly friends

Chelsea recently told People: “I’m really grateful Ivanka’s my friend. She’s a great woman. Friendship is always more important than politics.

The two women, who both live in Manhattan, reportedly go on double dates with their husbands, Marc Mezvinsky and Jared Kushner.

On social media too the women regularly message each other on Facebook and Twitter

We haven't had a conservative who can articulate conservative principals, or even knows what they are, since Reagan. Demographics are what they are, but people are still people. Conservatism is a reflection of natural law, the way things are. If that's true, if it's well articulated, it should hit home.

I was active in GOP Fairfax County politics. I heard the same kind of nonsense from the GOPe who ran the county committee. They just didn't understand what was happening to them as the demographics of the county changed. 2004 marked the first time the Dems won the county in 40 years. Since then they have piled up huge margins of votes that neutralize the voting in the rural areas. The foreign-born population of the county is now 33% and increasing. This is the case in most of Northern Virginia.

As both an election officer and poll watcher I have watched the changing demographics play out in the voting booths. For the first time last election, the ballot was in both Spanish and English. The Dems bring in the Hispanic voters by the bus loads along with translators who help them in filling out the ballots. And then there are the liberal white voters who make sure they vote. Blacks make up 20% of the state population. The bottom line is that the Dems now outnumber the Reps in VA.

The conservative message in VA doesn't resonate with the majority of voters any more than it does in CA, no matter how well articulated. Most voters don't vote on the issues but on where they stand in partisan politics. The D means far more than any message. Unless we do something about legal immigration, the Dems will be the permanent majority party. It is just a matter of time and demographics. I compare it to the frog being slowly boiled who only realizes what is happening when it is too late. It may already be too late.

i posted right from the website.

What is your point??

> Did they give any examples of that behavior? Trump making promises and not following through on them?

the news he was going to reveal on 0's birth certificate seceral times but didn't was the main item mentioned.

Looks like the pubbie candidate, and others who wish to chime in, have some serious work to do in the major metropolitan areas if we are to save this country.

Unbelievable.

“I’ve seen (and been on the receiving end of) some very ugly things, even very vile and profane things posted by FReepers who dislike whoever takes issue with Trump.”

Some of us who support Trump have received the same treatment from those who don’t support him. We’re all grown ups.
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I agree. I have received some horrible treatment by a few who don’t support Trump.

Unless we reduce LEGAL IMMIGRATION, the country as we know it is gone.

ALL of the candidates have a few bones rattling around in their closets, including Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. I plan to vote for Trump because he is not a politician. He might be a crushing disappointment as well.

I sure admire your level tone, Califreak. :^)

"A few bones" is an understatement of closet contents for Trump, from a wife who posed for a nudie mag to enthusiastic support for Barak Obama only 8 years ago. So the idea that he "might" prove a "crushing disappointment as well," is another vast understatement. Not might, probably.

The most striking of your reasons:

I plan to vote for Trump because he is not a politician.

It is also a primary reason to reject him. Trump has zero, zip political compass. That's why he could so easily and convincingly be a happy supporter of Barak Obama, for Pete's sake, only eight years ago, yet be a "conservative" in so many ardently hopeful and romantic American patriots' eyes today. He's a celebrity personality; people are voting for the man in the hopes he'll live up to their political goals, in spite of Trump's clear lack of political compass.

My vote for Cruz isn't for the man, it's for a political philosophy. Ted Cruz adheres to a political compass; I'm voting for Cruz to hold to that course when I vote for him or other principled conservatives like one pinged to this post. There's a big difference between voting for a man and voting for a principle.

I know where Cruz stands on most issues just because I know his political compass.

Trump's stand on any issue is fleeting because he lacks a political compass, although is driven by a sincere showman's enthusiasm. God forbid, maybe a bit like the Music Man. Trump goes by the "think" system.

Back in 1999, when Trump openly advocated for universal health care, Cruz rejected the concept as soundly then as he does now, and the same with the 2nd Amendment. Trump has haltingly migrated on both issues ... and would continue migrating after he got in office, probably leftward as has been his lifelong tilt, being an executive who cultivates profitable organization (translation: people, government). What Trump stands for in government, is a total crap shoot in terms of voting for him.

Cruz will hold the course as he always has because he's a politician with a very good hold on the best political compass. I'll vote for that.

I'll decline risking accidental support of more and bigger government, which is probably what Trump would ultimately bring.

He’s got to be better than anything the dems put up though.

Ten years ago, I'd have agreed. Today I heed my tagline because it's the truth. Now, I only vote for what I want to win. Evidence as opposed to words indicate that Trump is more than risky toward bigger government, retaining a well-meaning government mindset that represents what I want to lose.

Like I said, now I only vote for what I want to win. I wish everyone would do that -- we'd be better off.

Bit of clarification:

Like I said, now I only vote for what I want to win. I wish everyone would resist the temptation to vote "against" -- we'd be better off.

Voting "against" is the means by which moral limited government conservatives are swindled into voting for more and bigger amoral government.

We vote how we see fit in the primary.

In the general, we usually wind up “voting against”.

I really hope this time around we’re not stuck voting against again.

McCain and Romney.

At least Trump or Cruz won’t be nearly as painful.

And one or the other might even win and do some good.

Romans 9

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

I'm not sure your point there, but every single soul will be weighed in the balance. Each soul will have had to have the same tools to make good decisions with.

Actually each soul does not have the same shot in human terms.

God made some for salvation and others for damnation.
He receives glory for His love and mercy of the elect and glory for His holiness and justice to those who are damned.
Everyone is guilty and deserves damnation, but God elected some, though not all, to be redeemed.
For the elect He works in them to will and to do for His good pleasure.

Would you please provide a reference for this. I find nothing with this sort of language in my bible. Perhaps you can give me a chapter and verse.

What's more, your interpretation doesn't bear any connect to reality here. These verses don't support your conclusions.

Philippians 2

13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

So while everyone is culpable for their sin, God works in His elect to choose Him, not out of their goodness, but because God chose them before the foundations of the world.
There is a mystery how free will is preserved in the predestination of the elect, but the Bible is clear that God directs the hearts of His own and yet all are without excuse.

What a strange interpretation. It doesn't bear any connection to the information in that verse whatsoever.

The verse says god worketh in you. It does not say or imply He doesn't work in anyone.

Ephesians 1

just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love:

5 having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

This is evidence of some incredibly bazaar logic.

What I note is that you do not seek to edify, but rather to provide information that begs the issue if God is a just God.

What I also note is that your interpretations are not borne out by the texts. You (or someone else) has come up with something that doesn't relate to the passages at all.

Your last two posts are designed more to call to question God, than to praise Him or lift Him up as the model for us to worship.

Where did you get the idea that God predistines some people to be saved and some not to be? That's freakishly bazaar.

Then you extrapolate that God does not extend the Holy Spirit to these people because they are already lost.

When you read the Bible, you need to consider the whole of it to make determinations.

What you seek to tell me is that the God that would not strike Lucifer down, is a God that would condemn men and not give them the power to decide their own fate.

That's just preposterous.

God does not want us to serve out of fear, so He did not strike Lucifer down, and by your account then condemns men to etermanal damnationn without having access to the Holy Spirit and free will.

You are wrong.

God does not want us to serve out of fear...

God's revelation, the Bible, is in conflict with your assertion. For the sake of brevity I will only proof text from the New Testament.

Revelation 19:5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying, "Praise our God, all you His servants and those who fear Him, both small and great!"

Revelation 14:7 ... saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water."

Revelation 11:11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;

1 Peter 2:17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.

Hebrews 12:28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.

Ephesians 5:21 ..submitting to one another in the fear of God.

2 Corinthians 7:1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

And as a rebuke about those who do not fear.

Romans 3:16-18 Destruction and misery are in their ways; And the way of peace they have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes."

What I note is that you do not seek to edify, but rather to provide information that begs the issue if God is a just God.

I seek to proclaim what God has said in His Word and to correct those that have corrupted or occluded its meaning. If one fears God out of a humble heart he would not dare to judge God. God is just and so justice is not an attribute that is external to God that can used as a standard to judge Him, but is intrinsic to who He is and so justice is a concept that reflects Godliness.

What you seek to tell me is that the God that would not strike Lucifer down, is a God that would condemn men and not give them the power to decide their own fate.

Revelation 20:10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

God is transcendent of time, His judgement and justice is not according to your understanding or timeline, but make no mistake it is complete and thorough.

For a more thorough apprehension of these doctrines, I suggest the following for further study and understanding of the scriptures from the perspective of the founders and the reformation: The Institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin and Bondage of the Will By Martin Luther.

I would describe your last post to me with one word. Unhinged.

What you posted made no sense whatsoever. It was not connected to the verses you provided. It was outside the scope of reality. It was just bazaar.

Here you are, your third post in a row not praising God, but stooping to explain His unrighteous behaviors. Shame on you.

Let's skip forward here while I'm addressing it.

What I note is that you do not seek to edify, but rather to provide information that begs the issue if God is a just God.

I seek to proclaim what God has said in His Word and to correct those that have corrupted or occluded its meaning.

This is an undeniable falsehood. All one has to do is review my previous response to you, to recognize the truth of what I am saying here.

No, what you seek to do is cast God in the worst possible light, making stuff up as you go if you have to. It's truely bazaar. That's the only word that fits.

You also introduce chaos into the subject matter.

The post I linked above wasn't even agumentative. It just tossed out idiotic concepts with no connection whatsoever to reality, the verses you mentioned.

That post was the very thing you said here that you wanted to avoid, or correct. It's difficult to remain non insulting here it was so off base.

(editorial note: Post 433 replaced post 429. I wrote 429 late last night when I was tired. It needed some clarifications. 433 says the same thing a little clearer.)

(editorial note: I recognize that you addressed post 429. I had hoped to replace 429 before you responded, but you had already begun addressing 429.)

God does not want us to serve out of fear...

God's revelation, the Bible, is in conflict with your assertion.

No, your interpretation of God's word is what is in conflict with God's word. Once again I suggest folks review my response to your post prior to this one.

In that response I call you out on the fact that your descriptions of God's actions bore no connection whatsoever to the scriptures you provided. You fabricated the whole thing.

Before going further, let's get one thing clear. God is a God of love. He is not a God of hate. He DOES NOT want people to serve him out of fear.

Going in, people need to keep something in mind.

Fear (defined) As it relates to fear of God...

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.
-- Synonyms: awe, respect, reverence, veneration.

We are not talking about a fear seeking Heavenly Father that wants his subjects to tremble before Him. Jesus was God manifested on Earth. The Holy Spirit is the manifestation of God on earth. These are two thirds of the Holy Trinity. They are filled with mercy and love, and you're seeking to cast God in Heaven as an evil tyrant desiring his subjects to live in "stereotypical" fear. Nonsense.

Let's see, the God of heaven that sacrificed his only Son for us, is a tyrant only desiring us to live in fear of Him? Not buying it.

Yes, He does want us to respect Him. Lack of respect for Him is sin. Yes, you read that right. Something worth thinking about.

For the sake of brevity I will only proof text from the New Testament.

    Revelation 19:5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying, "Praise our God, all you His servants and those who fear Him, both small and great!"

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.

    Revelation 14:7 ... saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water."

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.

    Revelation 11:11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.

This is just one more bazaar inclusion in your posts to me. Some of Revelations is very hard to extrapolate meaning from. The symbolism is open to a myriad of interpretations. None the less you dip into one of the symbolisims to yank out this example of what you must seem to think proves God desires us to fear him. This wasn't God. It was three humans. Due to the circumstances, sure folks were frightened by what they were seeing. Is there a message in there that God wanted them to be frightened of Him? Is there a message in there that God wanted people to be frightened at all? No. Why include it when it's inclusion simply serves to display your desperation to prove God wants us to be afraid of Him? Link to chapter 11, so folks can understand the context It's just bazaar.

    1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.

    1 Peter 2:17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.

    Hebrews 12:28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.

    Ephesians 5:21 ..submitting to one another in the fear of God.

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.

    2 Corinthians 7:1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.

And as a rebuke about those who do not fear.

    Romans 3:16-18 Destruction and misery are in their ways; And the way of peace they have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes."

4. reverential awe, especially toward God:
-- the fear of God.

This clearly references people who do not reverence God, heed His Word, and abide by His directives.

Let's run a little test here:

1. A person is so afraid of God he wets his pants just thinking about Him. Other than that he commits every sin known to man.

2. A person respects God. He does not fear him. He lives a life as close to what God directed us to.

3. A person is so afraid of God that he does everything God told us to do because otherwise he'd be burned up in the lake of fire.

Which of these do you think describes God's actual desire from his followers?

Obviously you can't pick two because it involves no fear. You'd have to pick one or three. I suspect you'd pick three.

Two is the obvious answer to the rest of us.

Let's consider a test case:

1. A wife loves her husband and does everything she can to please him, and give him the best life she can. She is faithful and never harbors thoughts about him that are bad. She is never tempted by anyone else. She trusts hm completely She expects him to return her love and he does over and over.

2. A wife fears her husband. She does everything she can to please him and give him the best life she can, because she knows he'll beat her if she doesn't. She is faithful, but she knows he is vengeful. She is tempted, but never acts out on it due to fear. She cannot trust him. She expects his love to end the moment she doesn't do exactly what he says.

Which of these is the model God desires us to live by? One can't work for you, so you're essentially left picking 2. Number one is obviously correct to those of us who grasp the character of the true and living God..

What I note is that you do not seek to edify, but rather to provide information that begs the issue if God is a just God.

I seek to proclaim what God has said in His Word and to correct those that have corrupted or occluded its meaning.

With all due respect, you're failing miserably. I am not convinced this is your goal at all. The arguements you make here are the exact arguments of the fallen one. You don't see that?

Satan has to make these very arguments to raise doubt about God, His justness, His methods of ruling the universe. Only by making such arguments stick can Satan proclaim himself to be the better choice for leader.

God's love, compassion, and just ways, prevail, but only to those who can grasp it. You don't. I have seen no evidence of it whatsoever.

If one fears God out of a humble heart he would not dare to judge God.

And yet here you are doing just that. You have judged Him to desire us to serve Him out of fear.

God is just and so justice is not an attribute that is external to God that can used as a standard to judge Him, but is intrinsic to who He is and so justice is a concept that reflects Godliness.

How can you say God is just? Remember, above you said we cannot judge God.

You laid out several concepts there in a manner that was more confusing than enlightening. On one part of it, you're just dead wrong.

You are so wasted on this topic. God cannot be judged? What numbskull told you that?

Every creature in the universe will kneel in respect of God. Why would they do that for a person about whom they never contemplated His righteousness?

Subjects here on this earth, and throughout the universe will see the justness of God's ways.

I submit that even the fallen will at some point agree that He was just toward them.

1. He laid out simple easy to understand guidelines
2. He didn't force them to comply
3. He asked them to observe his rules out of love, not fear, but did explain the wages of sin
4. He provided the Holy Spirit to each of them to help them understand right from wrong and make the right decisions
5. He provided His own Son as a sacrificial lamb to purchase our souls
6. He provided the scriptures to edify and convict us
7. He promised to restore our planet
8. He promised to restore us
9. He promised to put an end to evil and the suffering and death on our planet

Not judged? That's just sophomoric fodder...

The whole reason God allowed Satan to live was related to Him (God) being judged. You didn't know that?

You have adopted the great deciever's song and dance 100%, and haven't a clue you have done so.

You attempt to come at this from an intellectual vantage point, but are completely blinded to the true nature of your agruments

I don't say you're an evil person, but you are very badly misguided in your thoughts here.

What you seek to tell me is that the God that would not strike Lucifer down, is a God that would condemn men and not give them the power to decide their own fate.

    Revelation 20:10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Yes He will, at the end of the full revelation of sin..., not before. Ask yourself why? Why at this time and not at the inception of Sin in heaven?

It's because God knew that it would be impossible for beings across the universe to grasp what the tiniest sin would result in.

God Himself could not merely strike Satan down, because He would certainly be judged to be selfish, vindictive, and unjust.

Only after sin resulted in the corruption of man, and man came to the point of destroying all of humanity could God then say, "This is what I knew from the beginning, but you had to come to know as well."

God cannot be judged? LOL, you have missed the whole subject of the conflict of the ages, good vs evil, God in the end being seen as a just and righteous God.

God is transcendent of time, His judgement and justice is not according to your understanding or timeline, but make no mistake it is complete and thorough.

Yawn...

For a more thorough apprehension of these doctrines, I suggest the following for further study and understanding of the scriptures from the perspective of the founders and the reformation: The Institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin and Bondage of the Will By Martin Luther.

You insult these men by suggesting I go to them to learn more after seeing what you have sought to teach here.

If you can't get the Bible right, why should I venture off into the secular?

After reading your attenuated emotional response and your liberal use of circular reason, I think I know your "life -Verse"

Isaiah 6:9-10 And He said, "Go, and tell this people: 'Keep on hearing, but do not understand; Keep on seeing, but do not perceive'. Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed."

After reading your attenuated emotional response and your liberal use of circular reason, I think I know your "life -Verse"

I addressed exactly what you said. This was described with power words to convey a false impression. That, for the simple minded, means lying, seeking to create false impressions, bearing false witness.

Isaiah 6:9-10

And He said, "Go, and tell this people: 'Keep on hearing, but do not understand; Keep on seeing, but do not perceive'.
Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed."

This would make sense as a comparison, only if your posts had made sense. Your posts were illogical.

For instance, you posted a number of texts related to fear, to butress the idea God wants us to fear him.

I responded by clarifying the term fear for you, and explaining the type of fear referenced was not the type of fear you made it out to be.

Now you say I was emotional, and liberally used circular logic.

You destroy your ability to use that text in reference to me.

You are using the great deciever's arguements against God.

You won't listen to someone explaining what you are doing.

You dismiss anything said to you that makes perfectly logical sense.

I have yet to see you back up one thing you have said with a text.

You have steadfastly refused to heed the scriptures, but have engaged in redefining terms in an almost Orwellian manner. Your argumentation is:
1)God is love
2)Fear is antithetical to love
therefore God does not want us to fear Him.

I have countered that scripture commands us to fear God with overwhelming exegetical proofs.

You have responded that fear does to mean fear so that you do not have to retreat from your conclusion. Your source is your own thinking. This is a most egregious form of eisegesis. It is rooted in no authority or foundation and so is a simply a bare assertion.

Here is a syllogism that you refuse to accept.
1) The Bible says both God is love and tells us to fear God.
2) God is not the author of confusion nor of contradiction. Conclusion:Love and fear are not antithetical but are in harmony.

An even harder one:
1) All men have volition
2) God works in those that He chose before the foundations of the world to will and to do in order that they choose to follow Him.
Therefore: Sovereign election and free will coexist in the human condition and neither negates the other.

This is a hard doctrine that the natural man finds repugnant, but then the things of God are only spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 2:14 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

How would one know if they have spiritual wisdom to discern the things of God? Maybe they could use a test from the Bible,

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom" Job 28:28, Psalm 111:10, Proverbs 9:10 and 15:33.
Isiah 11:2 The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.
and
Isaiah 33:6 Wisdom and knowledge will be the stability of your times, And the strength of salvation; The fear of the LORD is His treasure.
2 Corinthians 5:11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.
Ezekiel 32:32 "For I have caused My terror in the land of the living; And he shall be placed in the midst of the uncircumcised With those slain by the sword, Pharaoh and all his multitude," Says the Lord GOD.

So the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. Without it one has not begun to become wise. The cruel irony is that you reject the first step of wisdom in order to deny it. Maybe that is what Paul meant when he wrote "Romans 1:22 Professing to be wise, they became fools.

A spouse you choose, kids you don’t.

I think the way his kids have turned out is just fine. If we purged FR of conservatives who have had bleeding heart kids, it’d probably be a lonely place. She may yet come around.

But I would think the concern is that the close family member could persuade and influence the president on some issues.