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To: Timber Rattler

So the conservatives are going to fold after another freakin show vote?
They are all frauds,they all talk a good game,as Ted Cruz says,campaign conservatives,McCarthy is an ahole,he proved it with his big mouth,if any of these so called freedom conference votes for this guy,they should have their names known and exposed as the fraud they are and thrown out of that caucus and I would view that caucus as just another club of frauds that are there for venting by the few traditional Americans left in the Country


3 posted on 10/08/2015 4:07:06 AM PDT by ballplayer (hvexx NKK c bmytit II iyijjhihhiyyiyiyi it iyiiy II i hi jiihi ty yhiiyihiijhijjyjiyjiiijyuiiijihyii)
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To: ballplayer

Hold on a second.

I am the biggest Ted Cruz / alt-Republican supporter but at some point realities need to be taken into account.

Look at the federal budget for example. It would be impossible to turn the federal budget into a free market, liberty, Constitution based budget overnight. It would be totally possible to simply de-fund Obamacare, Planned Parenthood and executive amnesty. We should do everything in our power to get those goals accomplished.

Similarly, I believe it will be nearly impossible to get a true tea party style patriot as Speaker of the House. However, we could put enough pressure that we could get the leadership to change the party rules in order to share more power with conservative committee chairmen. While this wouldn’t accomplish everything we want, it would go a long way toward furthering conservative policies and would be MUCH better than the Boehner led house of the past.

It seems our options are thus...

Strong McCarthy - 66% chance (going down the same road we have been going)
Weak McCarthy - 33% chance (conservatives banding together and demanding power sharing)
A Conservative = 1% chance (a miracle)

I say we take the weak McCarthy and then come back for more at a later time.


11 posted on 10/08/2015 5:39:02 AM PDT by nitzy (I don't vote for Republican'ts)
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To: ballplayer

They are not in the majority of the party let alone the caucus. Look at the last few presidential nominees. We are a minority in this party.


12 posted on 10/08/2015 5:45:02 AM PDT by pas
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To: ballplayer

that seems an ignorant statement

it is a vote for a conservative candidate

cynicism is unwarrented


15 posted on 10/08/2015 6:22:51 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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