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Clinton and Fiorina agree on Syrian strategy ...and they're both wrong
Cain TV ^ | 10/2/15 | Robert Laurie

Posted on 10/03/2015 7:18:48 AM PDT by jimbo123

WWIII over CIA backed rebels? No thanks.

We needed a President and Secretary of State who could stymie Russia on the diplomatic front.

We needed a President who was up to the task of managing the world stage.

We needed a Commander in Chief who would be either feared or respected by our allies and enemies alike.

We don't have that.

Instead, we're faced with Middle Eastern chaos, a rapidly expanding global terrorist force, and a refugee crisis that is spreading to every corner of the globe. The President's response has, so far, consisted of a feckless UN speech and deafening silence.

Two Presidential candidates have, however, offered their ideas regarding how we should handle Russia, Syria, ISIS, and the CIA-backed rebels in the region.

As Breitbart reported, Carly Fiorina was first to voice her support for a no-fly zone.

"Well, first, we know what’s going on. Syria and Russia, who have had a longstanding relationship, Iran, and Iraq, are forming an unholy alliance. Russia’s intentions are to shore up, and stabilize the Assad regime. ISIS is sort of a camouflage. There is no doubt, that Russia will be conducting airstrikes against anti-Assad rebels, whether or not they happen to strike a few ISIS folks as well is, I don’t know, to be determined. Here’s what we need to do immediately, I believe. First, not only can we not withdraw our air support, but I believe we must tell the Russians that we will conduct — we will secure a no-fly zone around anti-Assad rebel forces that we’re supporting. This is a tricky maneuver, it’s a dangerous maneuver, but it’s a maneuver that we must undertake, because we must make it crystal clear to Russia that they do not get to move into the Middle East, and become the dominant

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KEYWORDS: bases; chaos; fiorina; fiorino; hillaryabedin; influence; isis; israel; leadership; mccain; oil; putin; reagandoctrine; reaganesque; russia; syria; territory; vacuum

we will secure a no-fly zone around anti-Assad rebel forces that we’re supporting. This is a tricky maneuver, it’s a dangerous maneuver, but it’s a maneuver that we must undertake

1 posted on 10/03/2015 7:18:48 AM PDT by jimbo123
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Fiorina: ‘We must be prepared’ to use force on Russia

Fiorina: Us Should Secure No-fly Zone Around US Backed Anti-assad Rebels, ‘Be Prepared’ To Use Force

Fiorina Calls for War on Russia in Syria?

Carly Fiorina: It’s time for the U.S. to impose a no-fly zone around American-backed rebels in Syria

2 posted on 10/03/2015 7:20:34 AM PDT by jimbo123
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This is serious business, Cara. We’re not purchasing Compaq Computer here.

3 posted on 10/03/2015 7:23:31 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

You know what I’ve noticed? Anyone who agrees with Hillary Clinton about anything is WRONG.

4 posted on 10/03/2015 7:26:03 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Liberals need to be caged for the safety of human beings. (FReeper Norm Lenhart))
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Carly is wrong, again.

5 posted on 10/03/2015 7:41:50 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: MichaelCorleone
That's Cara Carlton Sneed Bartlem Fiorina. Yup, maybe she went by CC Sneed before her first marriage.

Fiorina was an aide for McCain's campaign in 2008. She must've learned everything she knows about foreign policy from him. Scary.

6 posted on 10/03/2015 7:54:11 AM PDT by grania
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To: jimbo123
To establish a no-fly zone is the equivalent of an act of war. When taking warlike actions it's a good idea to know why you are doing so and is probably also a good idea to identify your enemy.

Having identified an enemy it is a good idea to develop tactics, strategy and a policy leading to the accomplishment of national interests. Actually that is the process in reverse.

The first step is to identify American national interests. What interest do we have in Syria? What interest we have in the neighboring lands? What threat does the continued rule of Assad pose for the United States? What threat would emerge upon the takeover of Syria by Isis? Can we consider Syria in isolation? Do we not have to consider it because of its proximity to Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia to have implications for United States interests beyond Syria's borders? Does it pose a threat to the world supply of oil? Would either al-Assad or Isis constitute a greater threat to Israel? Why should we care?

If we cannot consider Syria in isolation should we not also consider the intervention of Russia but not Russia alone rather acting in concert with Iran? Are we not facing a potential caliphate running from Teheran in Iran, through Baghdad in Iraq, through Damascus in Syria right to the shores of the Eastern Mediterranean? In short are we not looking at a new axis running essentially from the Crimea to the Mediterranean protected by Russian arms, including nuclear weapons, all in league with each other and all inimical to the interests of the United States?

If this caliphate or axis is a proximate possibility, is that danger greater or lesser than the danger posed by Isis in the region? Is the real enemy Iran, the country we have just funded, the country we have just ensured will get the atomic bomb, the country that is now in league with Russia as a client state being supplied with Russian weapons? Have we not in effect borrowed money from China to give to Iran so they can spend it in Russia to get weapons with which to kill us?

Some other non-regional questions include, what do our European allies want us to do? What can we economically afford to do? How effective will our carriers be with short range airplanes aboard and heightened danger from land-based missiles? Are we likely to get into a war because one of our allies, for example Israel, triggers one? If we are sucked into the such a war will it be in our interest? Will we be ultimately forced to put boots on the ground? Will the American public tolerate that? When these questions are addressed, much less answered, we can begin to talk about what victory would look like and at the end of the reasoning process, that is after strategy is considered, we can begin to talk about no fly zones.

When are we going to address these issues?

7 posted on 10/03/2015 7:58:29 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: jimbo123

Both ARE wrong.

I am NOT convinced that the Syrian “rebels” are in fact a better option than Assad.

And Assad sucks.

But look, if Obama supports a foreign rebel, they’re likely to be bad. He supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Bad.

He supported the rebels fighting against Qadaffi in Libya.

He supported the liberal opposition to Netanyahu in Israel.

He supports the current government in Iran. Bad.

His track record, no doubt governed by his boss Valerie, is abysmal.

So protecting the rebels—as Obama was “pledged” to do—is a stupid idea.

8 posted on 10/03/2015 8:24:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: jimbo123

“Look at that face!”

9 posted on 10/03/2015 8:28:17 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: jimbo123

Both agree on the domestic war on women too.

10 posted on 10/03/2015 8:33:22 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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