What I Really Think About Mars

RUSH: You know, try as I might, I can't avoid making this show about me. Well, that's not the right way to say it. I can't avoid having myself become part of this show, and that's never what I want. I mean, I am the show, but I mean I want to talk about things out there happening besides what I say. Why do I need to tell you what I say when you hear me say it the first time? But this Mars thing is just totally all over the place out there, and every one of these people talking about it, from local TV news, say, in Dallas, or The Politico, are getting it totally out of context from our old buddies at Media Matters for America, which wouldn't know the truth if it knocked them unconscious.

Anyway, greetings, folks. It's great to be here, great to have you with us. Telephone number is 800-282-2882 if you want to be on the program. The e-mail address, ElRushbo@eibnet.com.

"Trust in Media," did you see the latest poll from Gallup? "Trust in Mass Media Returns to All-Time Low," and it's not surprising. I don't just have to use examples involving me to illustrate this. And you know it as well as I do. According to Gallup, just four in 10 Americans say they have a great deal or even a fair amount of trust in the media to report the news fairly and accurately. Now, if I'm in the news media business -- you know, I don't even think they're bothered by this. I don't think it bothers them the slightest because they are the first to know they're not really in the news business, and they are the first to know that objectivity and credibility is no longer the recipe for what they do. So it probably doesn't bother them, but it is explainable.

Let's look at this Mars business. Yesterday we had the most incredible announcement from NASA. This is what is not reported in The Politico. I don't know if these local TV info people in Dallas even know what I said. I doubt that anybody reporting on what I said actually knows what I said. I doubt that any of them actually went to my website to read the transcript of what I said and then report on it. Even after reading what Media Matters took out of context and reported, their curiosity was not even such that they would go to my website to see if what they were being told was accurate or true.

So yesterday we have this big announcement that they've found flowing water on Mars and that two-thirds of the planet used to be an ocean, two-thirds of the northern hemisphere used to be an ocean, it was a mile deep. I raised a question. How do we know this? Have we probed a mile deep? We know that there's always been water on Mars because they have ice caps on the poles. So it's not news that there's water. That's why they said free flowing water. But that wasn't the big deal. The big deal was that some scientist -- and it was important to call the guy a scientist -- some scientist said that a catastrophic event probably related to climate change on Mars, resulted in this.

I'm sorry, folks, but that's not science, and that's not even a good wild guess. How can there be a catastrophic event on Mars when there is nobody there to experience the catastrophe? How can there be a catastrophe on Mars when we can't even prove it? All we can do is wild guess it? And the very fact that my objection to this is being noted is proof positive that there is an agenda attached to this, otherwise they would leave my comments alone. There is an agenda attached to it and they've got to try to discredit anyone -- in this case, me -- who is attempting to attach whatever they're doing with Mars and the news they're reporting to the Democrat leftist agenda, which of course is climate change.

And I predicted yesterday that it would not be very long before we would see evidence that my reaction and take on all this is accurate. And, lo and behold, right here my formerly nicotine-stained fingers. This is from Yahoo News, even, the Millennial news network. "Did NASA Time its Mars Announcement to Coincide with 'The Martian'?" a movie starring Matt Damon.

"NASA's announcement confirming that it found evidence of water flowing on the surface Mars," not now, but many, many moons ago, or I should perhaps say many, many Marss ago, "was celebrated by scientists searching for life in the universe -- and by publicists at 20th Century Fox looking to promote 'The Martian,' the upcoming Ridley Scott film starring Matt Damon. In the film, Damon plays Mark Watney, an astronaut who must survive alone on Mars after being left for dead by his crew during a fierce storm on the red planet."

What do you bet in this movie that fierce storm is related to climate change? I haven't seen the movie. But here's the thing. I don't think so much NASA was -- well, they might be timing the release of the news to support the movie. Actually, it's probably true. But more than that, NASA wants to go to Mars, and Obama's turned NASA over to Muslim outreach, in case you've forgotten. NASA wants the money to go to Mars. It makes total sense in the world that they would time, NASA, the release of, "Look what we found! We found flowing water on Mars, oh, my God, there could be life, oh, my God, we gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go."

And here comes the movie, they throw in climate change relationships just for a little dot the I, cross the T, and magic happens. (interruption) You think people don't know? Snerdley is telling me that some of you may not know that when I mentioned NASA was converted to Muslim outreach by Obama that you might be turning the radio up or scratching your heads. No, he did. One of the first things he did when he assumed office in 2009 was to convert NASA's budget and the use of that money into Muslim outreach.

By the way, Putin is now running the world, folks, not us. Vladimir Putin's running the world and making mincemeat and a joke out of Barack Obama. Vladimir Putin, a former KGB agent, went to the United Nations yesterday and said to the rest of the world, "Do you people know what you have done by supporting the Arab Spring and by launching all of this Muslim activity in the Middle East, do you know what you've done?" It was Vladimir Putin speaking up for Democratic values and freedom and liberty, and not the president of the United States at the UN. It's just stunning. This all happened yesterday while the program was going on and some of it afterwards, and I didn't have a chance to delve deeply into it until of course the program was over yesterday.

It's stunning what happened at the UN. I mean, Barack Obama was treated like a child. He was laughed at and mocked and made fun of. And I don't even know that he knows that's what happened. It happened from the podium at the UN, by virtue of what Putin was saying.

Anyway, NASA's been converted to Muslim outreach. They want to go back to Mars. Hell, that's fine. I'm not opposed to going to Mars. I'm big on exploring. The problem is everything that Obama touches has been corrupted, and by "corrupted" I mean it's been converted to liberalism. Everything that exists here exists for the purpose of advancing the Obama agenda. And something as innocuous... This is my way of attempting to educate and inform.

Something as innocuous as this supposed discovery on Mars can be converted to this, and it has been, and it is. I'm simply trying to alert people to be on the lookout for it so they can maybe resist it. I'm sorry. You know, I'm the mayor of Realville. And some scientist who's never been to Mars, who's never gonna go to Mars. All we've got's a couple rovers up there and our telescopes and so forth. We haven't the slightest idea what's ever happened on Mars. But this guy stands at the podium wearing his official NASA lab coat, with his official NASA business card.

And he says, "Yep, yep, free-flowing water up there on Mars! Brilliant, great discovery. Uh, two-thirds of the northern hemisphere used to be an ocean a mile deep but it's not there anymore because of a catastrophic event probably related to climate change." And they tell us this is science. There isn't science in any of that, and that's exactly what I said yesterday, and these people at Politico and at Dallas and the local TV news, I'm sure, are clueless what I really said. And those sound bites are coming up.

One more thing about life on Mars and water. Folks, you know, the... (laughing) I'm sorry, I can't help myself. This quest for life elsewhere in the universe, it's understandable. "We don't want to feel we're alone." I understand that. We don't want to feel like all there is is us on this blue marble. "There has to be something out there!" But if there is, it is automatic that it's much more advanced than we are. Whatever life forms are out there are smarter than we are.

They may have even been here a long time ago, built the pyramids, and then figured out this planet doesn't have what they need to survive, so they left. They did Stonehenge, they built the pyramids and then they gave up. They said, "This place?" They ran into humanity and said, "Ah, this is crazy," and left. The point is that every one of these assumptions on alien life is predicated on the fact that we're primitive, that we're murderous and self-destructive, and there are far more advanced civilizations in the universe, and, "Oh, God, would they please contact us!"

So we got movies from Spielberg like... I don't know. Whatever the name of it was. (interruption) No, not ET. Not ET, but the one where the aliens actually land in some guy's backyard out in Arizona or Colorado somewhere and played musical tones (humming). It was like Jeopardy, like watching... (interruption) That's right, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Anyway, water might be a necessary condition for life as we know it, but -- and here I'm going to get technical and beyond the ability to understand those at Media Matters and elsewhere in the Drive-By Media.

Because once you start talking about human life, to them it starts and ends with abortion, and I'm going much, much deeper than that. If you want to start talking about the conditions necessary for life on Mars or anywhere else, yeah. Water, without question is a necessary condition. But it isn't sufficient. Meaning, it's not enough for there to be life. What begets life? Serious question. Above and beyond... I'm not speaking about creation or any of that. We know the biblical explanation for life. But beyond that, I mean, what sustains life, what creates life, where does life come from? Does it come from water?

(interruption) Yes, we can. Yeah, most certainly we can. Life begets life. (interruption) Well, but I'm going beyond the creation. I'm assuming... I believe in the God of creation. But beyond that, how does life sustain itself? Life begets life. My point is just because you discovered water on Mars does not mean there's life there. It does not mean there ever has been life there because water does not create life. Life begets life. An organism begets itself. Human beings create more human beings, but water... If that's all it took, we wouldn't need to have illegal immigration. We could just go get some Democrat voters out of the Pacific Ocean.

Water does not create life. And if you want to think that all you need for life is water, and they found free-flowing water on Mars... Well, they haven't, by the way. They think they found evidence of it. Well, if that can satisfy your scientific requirement for the existence of life, well, I can't change your mind. The idea that Mars once had an ocean is pure speculation, a total wild guess. No one knows. But let's assume for a moment that the NASA guy with his official NASA scientist white lab coat is right. Let's say that there was once an ocean on Mars.

Where did it go? Where? That's a lot of water. You have two-thirds of the northern hemisphere of Mars covered by water, it's a mile deep. Where did it go? It can't escape into space. You know why? It's called gravity. And the atmosphere would keep it there as well. So if there was once all that water on Mars, and there is a lot of water here on earth, what's gonna happen to our ocean? Is the same thing gonna happen? Is it gonna vanish? How did the water vanish?

My point is, they're presenting all this stuff to you as fact just like they're presenting everything involving global warming as scientific fact. It's nothing but wild guesses. It's nothing but based on computer models, which is the result of data input that who knows if it's legit or not. And where you did it on climate change, global warming. Have you ever heard a forecast for next year on the climate? Have you ever heard a forecast for 2018 on the climate?

Why do you only hear forecasts for the next 30 years, 50, or a hundred years? Did you ever ask yourself that? These brilliant pro-global climate change people, man-made, come out and they're constantly trying to scare the pants off everybody with these predictions of doom, gloom, apocalypse or whatever else. But it's always 30 years down the road. Even in 1980 it was 20 years down the road. We've long gone past the first predictions that predicted doom, and they were dead wrong. Why do they still have any credibility?

Michael Oppenheimer on This Week with Brinkley back in 1985. "We got 20 years," he said, "to stop global warming -- and if we don't, it's over!" "We can't prove it," he said, "but we gotta assume it's here and we gotta take immediate steps to stop it or it's over." Well, here we are much more than 20 years since then, and the predictions still are not for next week, even, next year. They're always for 30, 40, 50, hundred years away. You ever asked yourself why that is? The big reason is, you're not gonna be here to know whether they were right or wrong.

"Well, we can't predict next year or the next two years! It's so slow, Mr. Limbaugh. You obviously don't understand science. Changes are microscopic."

Well, shouldn't they have been happening then? We got 30 years since you guys first started whining about this, after you first warned about freezing. I just think it's all bogus, folks. And it's not hard to find out what I think. It's not hard. You don't need a super-secret code. You don't need a special ring on your hand that only you can access what I think or say. Just turn on the radio. There are more radio stations carrying this program than any other program in the world, or you go to my website. There's a free side to it so you can get the transcript. There's no excuse for not knowing what I say.

RUSH: All right. So to the sound bites we go. First up, this is Kevin Roth. He's one of the... Well, he's a fill-in cohost in Dallas TV, KDAF-TV Eye-Opener cohost speaking of the NASA announcement and me, and this is how it was reported. This was this morning, in fact.

ROTH: Not everybody's buying it. At least one guy is not buying it. Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh went on a show yesterday and posed the question: What if NASA made up water on Mars to help push the liberal agenda? Hmm.

ROTH: He believes NASA has been corrupted, and he warned viewers (sic) that this news will be used for liberal political reasons.

RUSH: I don't think I said they made it up. I said they don't know. They can't possibly know. It's speculation. Anyway, there's no excuse for these people not knowing what I said. This is the point. I have a website. It's free. There's a free side to it. You see the transcript of everything I say, or turn on the radio. They're clueless. And then Kevin Roth again, same station during this discussion, another coanchor joins conversation.

ROTH: I honestly, truly thought they were gonna say they found some microorganisms on Mars and that there is life. And now it's just water, and I'm like --

COLLINS: And also to be clear when people think about life on Mars, we're not talking about Martian.

RUSH: "[T]o be clear, when people think about life on Mars, we're not talking about Martian." We are. That's the point. We are indeed talking about Martian. She's talking about the movie. I mean, Ridley Scott, the director of the movie, is out there saying, "Oh, yeah, yeah. I knew about this water thing on Mars months ago." Meaning: This whole thing has been combined. It's PR. Hey, nice work if you can get it.

If you've got a movie out and you can convince the NASA people to time their discovery with the release of your movie, good for you. Politico has a story: "Rush Limbaugh Pans Evidence of Water on Mars as Part of Leftist Agenda," and they take it out of context, too, which is typical. It's no wonder that people that trust the news media is down to 40 or actually lower than that. But again, I don't think this guy, Eliza Collins... I doubt that he went to my website to find out what I really said. Just looked at these "watchdog" websites and took it from there.

RUSH: To the phones we go. We're gonna start with Fred in Singer Island, Florida, right up the road here. Great to have you, Fred. How are you, sir?

CALLER: Yes, Rush. Pleasure. The "catastrophic event" that NASA's referring to couldn't happen. Mars does not have an iron core. Earth does. And without an iron core, you go to have a magnetosphere, without a magnetosphere, any atmosphere would just be blown away by the solar wind.

CALLER: I read things. Earth does, and that's what gives us the North and South Pole, and that's what gives us the Northern Lights.

RUSH: And so there's...? I don't know what that means. I have no idea. This is total Greek to me. No offense to the Greeks.

CALLER: The iron core gives us North and South Pole. It's what aircraft navigate with.

RUSH: Well, but they do have ice caps with what look like a north and south pole on Mars?

CALLER: NASA's not being truthful when they're saying a catastrophic event. It was never an event to begin with.

RUSH: Anyway, I'm not enough of a scientist to know what you even mean by an iron core so I'm gonna have to do some research. I can do it in three minutes and know what he's talking about, no sweat. I'll just do it during the break here. It would be easy... A lot of hosts would say, "Yeah, yeah, exactly right, exactly right," and everybody in the audience would say, "Wow, what a bunch of idiots we are." I'm admitting I'm an idiot along with you, folks.

Iron core? You ever heard this, Snerdley? (interruption) You've heard that Mars does not have an iron core? You've heard that? (interruption) Okay. I haven't heard it, and I'm not afraid to admit I haven't heard it. I've been focused on the presidential race. I can't know everything. Anyway, we'll look into it. But if Mars doesn't have a magnetic field, it does mean... Take a look. The temperatures on Mars are such I don't know how water would flow anyway.

I mean, we're talking minus 60 or even a 100 and... It does not have an atmosphere like we have. Efforts here that people make to draw these similarities and equivocations, it just leaves me cold. Anyway, Fred, I'm sorry I'm not as informed as you are on this, and so I'm not able to have an informed conversation with you about it, but I will get myself up to speed in due course. In the meantime, Bill in Greenville, South Carolina. Great to have you. Hello, sir.

CALLER: I would just like to maybe defend NASA's a little bit and not have the Drive-Bys reporting their news. The fact that there has been, as they're saying, a climate change on Mars? Obviously there's nobody there burning fossil fuels, so it's not a man-caused or human-caused climate change.

RUSH: That's true, too, if you want to approach it that way with that formal logic. I'm all in with you. That's exactly right. If there has been catastrophic climate change, what brought it about?

CALLER: Exactly. What are the forces exerting power on the climate? It'd have to be the sun, right? Hello?

CALLER: You pointed out yourself that climate change is natural and constantly occurring, and I think it did occur in the past on Mars, which may have led to them having an ocean and losing it without any human intervention.

RUSH: That's the thing. Everything is a constant state of flux, in terms of the universe. Nothing is static. Everything's constantly changing. And I don't care how deep you want to go, individual societies and cultures and human behavior, everything's constantly changing. The weather is never the same. Seasonal averages, but everything is constantly changing. That's what's so wrong with this man-made disaster debate on earth. But you raise a good point. There are no men, there's no humanity, there are any people. There's nothing on Mars. So what's causing it? If there was indeed a "catastrophic event" related to climate change, who caused it? So his point is that, either way these people argue it, they are dooming their own case.

RUSH: Okay, I looked it up, and our caller from Singer Island was right. There's a piece in TIME magazine. Although that piece doesn't get into the stuff about a magnetic core, it's implied. But it is stated that there is no iron core, and therefore that might be the reason Mars has no atmosphere. But from whatever I was able to put together on the fly here during the break, Mars does not have a good magnetic field, and it's debatable if it has an iron core. It's not conclusive.

That makes sense. I mean, how can anybody really know? You know what one of the sources for this is models. Some of the... I'm just reading to you what I found here. Some of the models suggest that Mars does have an iron core, but it's up for debate. It is, quote, "not settled science." But there's no consensus of scientists on whether or not Mars has an iron core. However, Mercury appears to indeed have iron core. And Mercury has a very high density as well as a magnetic field.

Venus is believed to have an iron core based on planet formation models, but Mars doesn't have a good magnetic field, and thus it's debatable if it has an iron core. Jupiter and Saturn have strong magnetic fields, but it's believed that's due to magnetic hydrogen in their cores and not iron. So what all this adds up to is, look at the words "suggests," "is believed," "models point to." Nobody knows. We've had various probes and so forth. But look, I don't want to get too far after the beaten path.

My only point here is -- and this is inarguable, as far as I'm concerned. There's nobody that could change my mind on this. And it's not because my mind is closed; it's because I'm right, and it is this. Whenever you have a scientist talking about a "catastrophic event" on Mars brought about -- "likely brought about" -- by climate change, that's all I need to hear to tell me we have somebody who is either actively involved or has himself been co-opted and is unaware of it by a leftist agenda that is related to the effort to push this whole notion of man-made climate change on earth.

And there's only one reason to push that agenda, and it isn't to save the earth. It's to coalesce power in as many or as few places as possible. It's just Big Government 101. The good news is, folks... I mean, if you want to look at it in this way, the good news is that none of the other planets have Common Core. We're the only one that has Common Core. None of the other planets' education systems have been corrupted yet.

Rush is getting off his game. This is two bad days in a row for him. That doesn’t happen very often.

Comparing historical conditions (assuming it were possible through the interplanetary version of paleontology) on other planets might be a GOOD thing... let me explain.

If they found that on other planets parallel thermal fluctuations were going on to what was supposed to be happening on earth... know what that would prove? That it was the SUN to credit (or blame) for it. And that humans really COULD hope to do nothing except try to adapt.

The dried up oceans on Mars might get global warmists (AGW climate changeists) to dry up... wouldn’t that be music to our ears.

4 posted on 09/29/2015 12:31:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)

Meanwhile ... in this thread we are told ...

"A strange development, thinks Collins, for a great city-state that flourished even through the catastrophic climate changes that arguably led to the collapse of the great cities of the Levantine Early Bronze Age around 2350 BCE. Collins is hoping that further research and excavation may shed more light on this mystery."

6 posted on 09/29/2015 12:35:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)

I freaking LOVE Rush but was shocked he didnt know Mars lacked an iron core and a meaningful magnetosphere and therefore also a signifigant atmosphere.

Rush usually scores high on a geek meter.

Shocking, wow.

On the rest of the Mars stuff he was right.

Rush like me is probably coming to the inescapable conclusion that REAL Conservatism is not coming back in our lifetimes.

The best we can hope for is some relatively Conservative brand of populism that can win elections....i.e. Trump.

For someone as committed to the cause as Rush that has to be a real downer.

I think it’s just the Martians who live underground, all emptying the septic tanks at the same time.

9 posted on 09/29/2015 12:44:43 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)

Soon NASA will dig and find an SUV on Mars and claim it was man made climate change that did the planet in....

Rush is getting off his game. This is two bad days in a row for him.

That's like saying Yogi Berra struck out 12 times in 1950.

Cordially,

12 posted on 09/30/2015 6:53:21 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)

So why is the USA spending all that money to go to Mars when they could be giving away cell phones and other free stuff to the people here on Earth. Sarc.

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