Posted on 09/19/2015 12:08:13 PM PDT by pabianice
...IQ has a substantial direct correlation with measures of success in life, and it is also correlated with a variety of other characteristics that promote success...
...It’s not just that the IQ gap in working-class and upper-middle-class communities has gotten wider. The life penalties associated with low IQ have risen since 1960. If you focus on the economic changes since 1960, those with low IQ have faced a labor market in which the market value of a strong back has dropped while the value of brains has soared...
...If you focus on the reforms and social programs of the 1960s, the reductions in immediate penalties for destructive behavior (e.g., doing drugs, dropping out of school, grabbing purses, having a baby without marriage) had the most effect on people who were impulsive, attracted to immediate gratification, and unable to foresee long-term consequences—qualities associated with low IQ. The effects of such changes in incentives among the smart were much smaller....
You find me non-affirmative action scientists, physicists, engineers, doctors, mathematicians, etc. with average or low IQs, then I’ll start believing that IQ doesn’t matter.
Very bad judgment professionally and personally. Given to dropping bricks (an old-fashioned British expression meaning to unintentionally insult someone), so impulsive he once got fired for shooting his mouth off at the director Peter Hall and overindulging in booze in front of producers, directors while embarrassing his entire family. Sort of proved to me that Mensa was, as Christopher Hitchens wrote, a crock.
Didn’t say it didn’t matter, but it’s not always a predictor of economic success. More often than not it is, but not always.
I’m not the actor’s father. He’s dead anyway.
I guess you could say I'm flexible.
If the job at the time requires setting at a desk, I do that.
If the job requires digging a ditch at the time then that's what I do.
No problems
Thanks for putting this up!
I want to change my ethnicity, to improve my economic standing.
Was thinking about Senator Warren, she rakes it in, but I may lack the cheek bones?
I have a friend like that. He’s so very brilliant in science, math and engineering - as well as history and architecture! - but hates being tied down to a desk. He is a handy man after leaving AT&T years ago.
I actually think he may be a little manic/depressive which also happens to highly intelligent people.
I scored a 145 (I think it’s timed as well...) but I have scored as high as 168 before.
Oh, I work a blue-collar job, and love it! I could never sit behind a desk. I tried it not too long ago, and couldn’t take it after 2 months. I was glad to get back to the “floor”.
Yes!
You're speaking in absolutes, so it only takes one exception to refute your premise.
FWIW, when Mensa has an impressive speaker the discussion of a topic can be incredible. People don't hold back on questioning and disagreeing because of a fear of offending anyone with non-mainstream thoughts. A good dinner group where the discussion can be a lot like it gets on FR....going in all directions with a lot of give and take. Then there's its function as a sort of family for those who don't have close family ties or terrific social skills in large fake social environments.
Have you ever been to a Mensa meeting?
Your daughter’s husband sounds so familiar. Perhaps as your granddaughter gets older, home schooling or a school enviroment that encourages her to progress at her own pace would be good. My son never had much in common with kids his own age.
We got President Carmacho in 2008.
Having been raised on a SW Texas small family ranch myself, I agree-growing up doing hard work teaches problem solving and self-discipline, too-find the best way to do the job with the tools you have onhand...
After significant academic and political hoo-rah about the errors, most psychologists decided to call raw intelligence "g" and agreed to disagree about how to measure it.
Calling IQ names does not in the least negate the existence of raw intelligence, that it is commonly referred to as "g" these days, and that it is largely based on genetic inheritance with the usual variations inherent in species.
I don’t think he ever found anything he wanted bad enough to be worth furthering his schooling. He did get a GED when he dropped out because he knew he’d need it to get work but that was it.
He probably would have made a good hermit, not a risk taker really but always lived life on the edge.
Good one!
I checked the answers to the questions and found that the two I guessed at (the “what number doesn’t belong”) I got them right!
So I’m not sure if I’m smart or psychic!
Anyways, great!
The time spent at home speaking a simplified language holds them back. Blacks, not so much, as many blacks often score well in reading, but not so well in analytic parts of tests.
Reference, please. We need documentation before passing this along.
Thanks! I can’t picture many big city kids figuring out how to move a hay bale or big salt block a few feet without a pallet jack or a forklift-do science classes still teach what mechanical advantage is, or how to use an object like a long branch as a fulcrum?
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