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SCOTUS Justice Breyer likes to rely on the laws of other countries
Hotair ^ | 09/15/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 09/15/2015 3:11:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

This isn’t too disturbing. Nope. Not at all. Everything is just fine here, folks.

Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer has a new book out in which he shares some of his many philosophical observations about law and the court. In it, as the latest issue of Time reveals, he concludes that there’s clearly nothing wrong with American courts – including SCOTUS – considering the laws and judicial rulings of other nations. Stop laughing and pointing. I’m serious.

Should the Supreme Court care that other countries have abolished the death penalty?

That looming question animates Justice Stephen Breyer’s “The Court and the World,” a brisk but academic book that argues that it is relevant for the nation’s top judges to consider what other countries’ legal systems have decided when faced with difficult issues.

“If someone with a job roughly like my own, facing a legal problem roughly like the one confronting me, interpreting a document that resembles the one I look to, has written a legal opinion about a similar matter, why not read what that judge has said?” writes Breyer, who was appointed by President Clinton in 1994. “I might learn from it, whether or not I end up agreeing with it.”

Why not read what the other judge has said? Well, for one thing, the other judge isn’t working off of the United States Constitution. I can see how judges in some other countries might have “a job like yours” and I’m sure some of them wrestle with the same type of problems on occasion. But how many of them actually have a constitution that’s substantially the same as ours? And even if you found one that was really, really close, it still wouldn’t be close enough. You swore to uphold our constitution, not some reasonable facsimile thereof.

Even if the issue before them was precisely the same, you serve the people of the United States of America. Each country has their own sensibilities and tendencies just as we have ours. These are our courts and I’m not sure how that could be in any way unclear. We’re not talking about referencing ancient documents which the founders admittedly looked to when drafting our own bedrock documents here. You’re pinging off a topic which is up for debate here and now in the modern world. Whether France, Germany or Russia have done away with the death penalty has nothing to do with what the citizens of our nation decide to do.

Of course, this isn’t something new. I enjoyed the reference to a bit of congressional history in the article which reminds us that back in 2004 there were a number of members of Congress talking about the possibility of impeaching justices who do this, and Breyer was on the list even then. (NBC News)

While Feeney and Goodlatte, who are members of the House Judiciary Committee, can’t summon the justices before them to defend their use of foreign precedents, they hope to fire a rhetorical shot across the bow of jurists who increasingly look to foreign legal trends, especially in death penalty and gay rights cases.

Feeney even used the “I” word, impeachment, in an interview with MSNBC.com in his House office Wednesday.

“This resolution advises the courts that it is improper for them to substitute foreign law for American law or the American Constitution,” Feeney said. “To the extent they deliberately ignore Congress’ admonishment, they are no longer engaging in ‘good behavior’ in the meaning of the Constitution and they may subject themselves to the ultimate remedy, which would be impeachment.”

And who were the justices who were under discussion for citing foreign law in their rulings back then? John Paul Stevens, Stephen Breyer, and Anthony Kennedy. The problem is that there doesn’t seem to be any remedy for such a problem (when taken to the extreme) except for impeachment. The court is a co-equal branch. Congress can’t drag them in to chastise them or pass laws telling them how to rule. It’s either leave them to their devices or impeach them, really. Sure, you can pass a resolution of disapproval or some such measure, but it carries no weight.

I don’t know how much time Breyer has left to him, but he might want to consider early retirement.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: justicebreyer; scotus; stephenbreyer; supremecourt
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Question: What kind of Justice will a President Trump appoint?

Will it be closer to Scalia/Thomas/Alito? Or Breyer/Ginsberg?

1 posted on 09/15/2015 3:11:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Mental midget.


2 posted on 09/15/2015 3:14:30 PM PDT by twister881
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To: SeekAndFind

Turn him into Ice Cream.


3 posted on 09/15/2015 3:15:11 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current devices...one uses Brit spel now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I read an article once where Justice Darth Vader Ginsburg said that she sees nothing wrong with observing foreign law to rule on SCOTUS cases.


4 posted on 09/15/2015 3:16:54 PM PDT by GregoTX (Cruzader)
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To: SeekAndFind

If some Judge in Sweeden jumps off a cliff can we convince breyer to jump off a cliff too? Just wondering...


5 posted on 09/15/2015 3:17:07 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess he doesn’t place any significance into his oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States.


6 posted on 09/15/2015 3:18:38 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: SeekAndFind
Article V. Repeal the 17th Amendment and the hundred year rule of federal judges hostile to the 9th and 10th Amendments will end.

QED.

7 posted on 09/15/2015 3:19:11 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( To shun Article V is to embrace tyranny.)
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To: GregoTX

Yeah, she just luuuvs the South African constitution.


8 posted on 09/15/2015 3:19:36 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Like he did on the ACA, maybe obozo will again use his charismatic hammer on the remaining Constitutionalists members of the Supreme Court to get them to retire so he can fill the vacancies before he leaves office.
9 posted on 09/15/2015 3:20:49 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: GregoTX
Justice Ginsburg Backs Value of Foreign Law

Ginsburg Shares Views on Influence of Foreign Law on Her Court, and Vice Versa
10 posted on 09/15/2015 3:21:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind
That old RGB said pretty much the same this a while back.

Trump (or whoever gets the election) should make a vow to only nominate SCOTUS judges that use the Constitution as their primary legal document. Period.

This is why we need to have control of the Senate, House and White House to ensure we have input/influence on our next SCOTUS judge nominees.

It is a given that demoncRATS look forward to stacking the court with internationalists...

So, with control of all three branches and they STILL fail us, then a pox on all of them.

11 posted on 09/15/2015 3:23:27 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

And all its 32 rights listed in that document. . like a right to food and housing and a job.


12 posted on 09/15/2015 3:24:19 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; GregoTX
Ginsburg to Egyptians: I wouldn't use U.S. Constitution as a model

"I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012," Ginsburg said in an interview on Al Hayat television last Wednesday. "I might look at the constitution of South Africa. That was a deliberate attempt to have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced basic human rights, have an independent judiciary. It really is, I think, a great piece of work that was done."

13 posted on 09/15/2015 3:24:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s see if we can clear up a few things:

It is outside the scope of the USSC to MAKE laws, that is the Constitutional purview of Congress.

The USSC is to uphold the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION and interpret AMERICAN LAWS relative to OUR Constitution.

The Laws of other countries are NEVER A PROPER REFERENCE FOR THE USSC!!!!!


14 posted on 09/15/2015 3:24:53 PM PDT by G Larry (Climate change is responsible for melting the logic synapses of leftists.)
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To: SeekAndFind

By this basis, we could challenge feminists and liberals by quoting Shariah law.


15 posted on 09/15/2015 3:31:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind

He has broken his oath and needs to be removed.


16 posted on 09/15/2015 3:37:16 PM PDT by RedMDer (Support Free Republic and Keep FReedom ALIVE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Every Justice that rejects the necessary relationship of the immutable transcendent principles of the Declaration with the Constitution. . SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY IMPEACHED AND REMOVED!!!


17 posted on 09/15/2015 3:39:25 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: SeekAndFind

Who appointed this bozo, a Republican?


18 posted on 09/15/2015 3:46:55 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Time to impeach and remove.


19 posted on 09/15/2015 3:51:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Paladin2

Well Ruth Buzzy Ginsberg thinks the Constitution of S Africa is way better than ours.


20 posted on 09/15/2015 3:54:10 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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