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Endgame? SurveyUSA poll finds Trump beating Clinton, all other Dems
Hot Air.com ^ | September 5, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 09/05/2015 10:55:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

So there you were, enjoying a perfectly lovely Friday heading into the Memorial Day weekend, (fine… it’s Labor day) safe and secure in the knowledge that all the things you needed to know about the 2016 presidential race were, for the moment, known. And then this happened.

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton head-to-head, according to a new poll released Friday.

The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent.

In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent.

The other interesting question that the phone survey (taken in the first few days of September) explored was the predictions of who would win the GOP nomination. Previously, even among Trump supporters, the largest number of people liked Trump but they didn’t think he was going to be the nominee. Now even that metric has flipped and 30% believe he will be carrying the GOP standard into the general election, while 20% still think it’s going to be Bush. (That would be the “follow the money” crowd I suppose.)

One of the first objections which will be raised by both Democrats and Trump’s critics on the Republican side is that “it’s SurveyUSA.” We seem to hit at least one of these stories every election cycle, but the complaints don’t tend to hold a lot of water. Going all the way back to the 2010 midterms there were similar complaints lodged by people who didn’t care for their results, but even then Nate Silver was giving them positive marks compared to established names such as Rasmussen.

On Tuesday, polls conducted by the firm Rasmussen Reports — which released more than 100 surveys in the final three weeks of the campaign, including some commissioned under a subsidiary on behalf of Fox News — badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates.

Other polling firms, like SurveyUSA and Quinnipiac University, produced more reliable results in Senate and gubernatorial races. A firm that conducts surveys by Internet, YouGov, also performed relatively well.

Still, this is just one poll and we’ll have to see a few more lining up in the same direction before we can declare a supportable shift in the tides. But the numbers seem to be following a pattern which has become ingrained in this season’s ongoing drama. So, assuming this data starts locking in for a while, what explains it? Had they only run Trump against Hillary there would be an easy out: Clinton’s numbers have been in free fall across the board for a while now and she’s currently so far underwater on her favorability and trust statistics that Trey Gowdy’s next investigation may include charges of her stealing artifacts from the wreck of the Titanic. In that light it would be simple enough to just say that everyone hates Hillary so they just hate The Donald a little less.

But how then would we explain how he’s beating Bernie Sanders and even lovable Uncle Joe Biden? Something is happening here and it’s either going to turn out to be SurveyUSA hitting a serious glitch in their process or… can we say it out loud? The other choice is that everybody who does this for a living got this wrong. Trump is still breaking all the rules on a daily basis, but it’s becoming a very real possibility that the people out there getting ready to vote in the primary and the general election as well don’t really give a hoot about our rules.

We have all lived to see interesting times.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; algore; berniesanders; donaldtrump; hillaryclinton; joebiden; polls; trump; trump2016
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
You are dead on. The only question about your scenario is to what degree the GOP will allow their hatred of Trump interfere with their overall 2016 campaign. After all, you can't bash the guy at the top and hope to have your House and Senate guys do well.

I'm guessing the RNC is already telling the top senate people that it will redirect much of its money to them---but even then, you can't as a senator run against your top of the ticket.

So, will the GOPe, especially the senators, swallow their pride and run effective races or would they choose to self-destruct in hopes of taking Trump out too? (The latter won't happen---but they ARE that dumb).

41 posted on 09/05/2015 1:04:53 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: hosepipe

Your posts are showing you becoming more and more unhinged.

Take a break for a day or two...maybe a week. I feel like I’m reading something from a DUmmie.


42 posted on 09/05/2015 1:13:26 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore

Your posts are showing you becoming more and more unhinged. Take a break for a day or two...maybe a week. I feel like I’m reading something from a DUmmie


Anyone believing TRUMP is honest, conservative or even cares about America is dyslexic.. i.e. in this case you..

He is in fact the CEO of several Global Corporations..
A Crony Capitalist and BLEEDS many governments like a Vampire... including the United States..

LIKE: the other crony capitalists do.. some are GLOBAL.. others are domestic.. LOVEs government.. whether Communist, Democracy or Dictator.. they make MONEY..

*** The POWER behind the GOPe... or havn’t you noticed.. and the democrats and Rinos as well.. HE’s ONE OF THEM..


43 posted on 09/05/2015 1:27:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: LS

IMHO....The GOP (e) is finished, as is the Democrat Party. The GOP Primaries will be loaded with “real” conservative candidates who will win in most contests. After the 2016 election...you will not recognize the GOP as it is today.

As for the Democrats......the dummies have now limited their options for political survival to dumping and brooming Obama as soon as possible. Clinton will fold or withdraw, Sanders & Warren are going nowhere...and, they have no bench, whatsoever!!! Biden sees the handwriting on the wall...and, wants no part of the action. He just wants his term to end, so he can make haste and get away from Obama, right into retirement from politics!!! Obama...in effect has destroyed his own party.

just study the 2010 & 2014 elections, and you will clearly see the trend. Had either McCain or Romney had a backbone...they would have and could have beaten Obama. They both choked...weak sisters that they are!!


44 posted on 09/05/2015 3:37:25 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
...just study the 2010 & 2014 elections, and you will clearly see the trend. Had either McCain or Romney had a backbone...they would have and could have beaten Obama. They both choked...weak sisters that they are!!

Had either of them won, would we be better off today?

How about tomorrow?

45 posted on 09/05/2015 5:53:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

That, my friend is a good question. If they stayed as they are with the Republican Establishment RINOs, we might be slightly better off then under Obama & the Democrats who have worked very hard and effectively to destroy the USA, from the once great and powerful nation she waa!!! I am really not the right person to ask this question of. I cannot stand either of those two whimps and turncoats!!!


46 posted on 09/05/2015 11:03:32 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Thank you for the validation that we totally smoked the D's in the 2010 and 2014 elections, why do you think BO has to use his pen and phone now?

Over a thousand democrat seats changed hands to the R's in those elections, btw after the government shutdown. Republicans now own 31 governorship's, 33 of the 49 state houses are majority R. The 114th congress is the largest majority of Republican's in congress since 1929-1931.

All to stop BO which the R's said they needed. And after those major historical victories, they say they can't put bills on his desk cuz he might veto them, so now they say they need the presidency to stop BO. So R's just wait for another 16 months and elect Bush and then we can stop BO and cut the budget and maybe defund PP. Until then you will just have to live with the fact that your tax dollars will aid the killing of another million+ babies by ripping their limbs from their bodies and selling them for gain, cuz BO will veto our bill, boo hoo.

47 posted on 09/06/2015 7:53:54 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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