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Endgame? SurveyUSA poll finds Trump beating Clinton, all other Dems
Hot Air.com ^ | September 5, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 09/05/2015 10:55:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

So there you were, enjoying a perfectly lovely Friday heading into the Memorial Day weekend, (fine… it’s Labor day) safe and secure in the knowledge that all the things you needed to know about the 2016 presidential race were, for the moment, known. And then this happened.

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton head-to-head, according to a new poll released Friday.

The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent.

In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent.

The other interesting question that the phone survey (taken in the first few days of September) explored was the predictions of who would win the GOP nomination. Previously, even among Trump supporters, the largest number of people liked Trump but they didn’t think he was going to be the nominee. Now even that metric has flipped and 30% believe he will be carrying the GOP standard into the general election, while 20% still think it’s going to be Bush. (That would be the “follow the money” crowd I suppose.)

One of the first objections which will be raised by both Democrats and Trump’s critics on the Republican side is that “it’s SurveyUSA.” We seem to hit at least one of these stories every election cycle, but the complaints don’t tend to hold a lot of water. Going all the way back to the 2010 midterms there were similar complaints lodged by people who didn’t care for their results, but even then Nate Silver was giving them positive marks compared to established names such as Rasmussen.

On Tuesday, polls conducted by the firm Rasmussen Reports — which released more than 100 surveys in the final three weeks of the campaign, including some commissioned under a subsidiary on behalf of Fox News — badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates.

Other polling firms, like SurveyUSA and Quinnipiac University, produced more reliable results in Senate and gubernatorial races. A firm that conducts surveys by Internet, YouGov, also performed relatively well.

Still, this is just one poll and we’ll have to see a few more lining up in the same direction before we can declare a supportable shift in the tides. But the numbers seem to be following a pattern which has become ingrained in this season’s ongoing drama. So, assuming this data starts locking in for a while, what explains it? Had they only run Trump against Hillary there would be an easy out: Clinton’s numbers have been in free fall across the board for a while now and she’s currently so far underwater on her favorability and trust statistics that Trey Gowdy’s next investigation may include charges of her stealing artifacts from the wreck of the Titanic. In that light it would be simple enough to just say that everyone hates Hillary so they just hate The Donald a little less.

But how then would we explain how he’s beating Bernie Sanders and even lovable Uncle Joe Biden? Something is happening here and it’s either going to turn out to be SurveyUSA hitting a serious glitch in their process or… can we say it out loud? The other choice is that everybody who does this for a living got this wrong. Trump is still breaking all the rules on a daily basis, but it’s becoming a very real possibility that the people out there getting ready to vote in the primary and the general election as well don’t really give a hoot about our rules.

We have all lived to see interesting times.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; algore; berniesanders; donaldtrump; hillaryclinton; joebiden; polls; trump; trump2016
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To: SamAdams76

21 posted on 09/05/2015 11:23:05 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: hosepipe

“Bubba Clintoon is advising TRUMP..”

Said someone with no evidence to back them up


22 posted on 09/05/2015 11:27:30 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: SamAdams76

I mean go back and read your last post that I’m replying to here with all the capital letters, bad grammar and hostile tone. How do you expect to win anybody over with that approach?


I post mainly to lurkers and use you and others merely as foils.. for that....

I love the lame posts especially.. to Highlight what I say more clearly..
BUT do not hesitate to respond to stupid posts as well..

There’s 10 lurkers for ever poster.. here..
Like TRUMP I depend on being flamboyant.. energized...

DEAD posts I usually ignore.. like this one...
But not always I give (some) long time freepers a different place..

So I dress like Willy Wonka while posting... what’s wrong with that?..
SOME here would not know a democrat from a republican if you gave them a good smell.. of each..


23 posted on 09/05/2015 11:28:10 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Kaslin

This should send Dems into a panic if the poll holds for any length of time. If so, they will most likely turn on their own and Hillary will be feed into the political meat grinder over her emails.

Or at least one can hope.


24 posted on 09/05/2015 11:28:16 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: TheStickman

“Bubba Clintoon is advising TRUMP..” Said someone with no evidence to back them up..


Would you EVEN CARE?.. {waiting}... I thought not..


25 posted on 09/05/2015 11:29:36 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: txhurl
Yes, that old photo has gotten a lot of circulation lately among conspiracy buffs. However, the true origin is benign. It was the early 1980s and then Vice-President George Bush invited the nation's governors, who were meeting in nearly Portland, ME, to his Kennebunkport home for a cookout (lobster bake).

Bill Clinton and George Wallace were governors at the time and so that explains why they were there. It was not a some kind of secret meeting involving drug running out of some small Arkansas airport. Sorry folks. But the smiling woman in the background between Clinton and Bush in that photo does kind of creep me out. She looks like a character from a Stephen King novel.

As an interesting sidenote from that day (July 30, 1983), a three-year-old Chelsea Clinton walked up to Bush and asked to use the bathroom. George personally walked her to one of the bathrooms in the main house and then returned her to Bill's side.

26 posted on 09/05/2015 11:33:26 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (We gave GOP the majority to take care of business and they let us down. Time for Trump/Cruz)
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To: Little Ray

You are correct. The transformation of America is very far along. I would describe our current situation as a “leaky socialist dictatorship”. Leaky in the sense that the internet isn’t yet locked down and conservatives aren’t yet rounded up.


27 posted on 09/05/2015 11:37:31 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: taxcontrol

The smart rats are turning against each other TODAY, fighting for what little power will be left in their sphere within 15 months .... or less.


28 posted on 09/05/2015 11:39:08 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: SamAdams76
the smiling woman in the background between Clinton and Bush in that photo does kind of creep me out. She looks like a character from a Stephen King novel.

Well, they are in Maine, it might well be Stephen King...look at the arms.

29 posted on 09/05/2015 11:39:55 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: Kaslin

Donald Trump will slaughter Hillary Clinton....Joe Biden, wisely, will choose not to run, and the Democrat Party will take devastating political losses in 2016!!! I have warned the Democrats, many times over, about the doomsday that is coming for them and the Republican establishment RINOs...but they never listen.

Shucks....all one had to do is study the 2010 & 2014 election results...and if Mitt Romney had a backbone he would have slaughtered Obama politically!!! What to do.......the only choice for the Democrat Party is to immediately broom Obama...force him to resign or impeach him. Short of that, the Dems are toast, no burnt toast!!!

The American voter, regardless of political party, hates Obama, The Democrats & the Republican Establishment RINOs with deep passion & disgust. The Obama media and pundits of all stripes are either high on reefer, or, simply insane!!! Wise up deadbeat low life political types!!!


30 posted on 09/05/2015 11:40:15 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party!!!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

What about Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz?


31 posted on 09/05/2015 11:40:27 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: SamAdams76

BTTT


32 posted on 09/05/2015 11:44:07 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: SamAdams76

I just read your FR bio and also that of hosepipe. Hosepipe’s bio is reasonable and sane. You, on the other hand, (1) propose yourself for President of the United States; (2) have published an agenda for your administration which, if enacted, would probably swell the federal budget deficit to twice the size it is today; and (3) have compared yourself to and have concluded that you are essentially the equal of President George Washington. Is there anything else we need to know about you before evaluating your critiques of other FR posters?


33 posted on 09/05/2015 11:48:48 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: 4Runner

Yes, I’ll be adding more to the profile later on.


34 posted on 09/05/2015 11:52:03 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (We gave GOP the majority to take care of business and they let us down. Time for Trump/Cruz)
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To: hosepipe

“Would you EVEN CARE?.. {waiting}... I thought not..”

Mind read much? Able to hear the thoughts of others? Do you ever feel like outside forces are able to get into your thoughts?

The term ASSume seems to fit here. Peace :)


35 posted on 09/05/2015 11:53:05 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman
Mind read much? Able to hear the thoughts of others? Do you ever feel like outside forces are able to get into your thoughts?
-----------------------------------------------------

Oh I see.. the verbal gambit got by you..
ZOOM right over your head..

The illusion as an allusion..

36 posted on 09/05/2015 12:08:23 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: TheStickman
“Bubba Clintoon is advising TRUMP..” Said someone with no evidence to back them up

Take a look at the pic in post #21. Way before Trump, he was advising Bush Sr. Then later on Bush Jr. Then Obama. It just never really ends with these people, does it?

37 posted on 09/05/2015 12:08:38 PM PDT by 4Runner
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To: Kaslin
Are you paying attention, RINOs?

If you w an to save your sorry _____, you'd better jump on three Trump Bandwagon FAST!

38 posted on 09/05/2015 12:08:56 PM PDT by Savage Beast (We the People OF THE UNITED STATESÂ…do ordain and establish this Constitution FOR THE UNITED STATES.)
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To: Savage Beast

(Damned Spellcheck!)


39 posted on 09/05/2015 12:10:19 PM PDT by Savage Beast (We the People OF THE UNITED STATESÂ…do ordain and establish this Constitution FOR THE UNITED STATES.)
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To: 4Runner

Methinks the standing woman in the white dress was the one doing the advising. As much as anyone was advising anyone, of course lol!


40 posted on 09/05/2015 12:32:18 PM PDT by TheStickman
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