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Breaking: OM BRADY BEATS NFL IN "DEFLATEGATE"(Shortened)
FoxNews.com ^ | September 3, 2015 | Foxnews.Com

Posted on 09/03/2015 7:22:22 AM PDT by Biggirl

Breaking.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 12; brady; deflategate; dumpgoodell; football; judgeberman; nfl
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To: Bender2; big'ol_freeper; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg
I'm pleasantly surprised, a federal judge without his head up his *ss? And he's a Clinton appointee to boot. Kommiasar Goodheel say he intends to whine to the appellate court but isn't asking for a stay of the decision.


41 posted on 09/03/2015 10:44:42 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

42 posted on 09/03/2015 10:46:52 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: veracious

The courts have authority in this. Why? Contract law. If you have a written contract that allows X to fine Y, but does not allow X to suspend Y, then doing the latter is a breach of contract. It then becomes a legal matter.


43 posted on 09/03/2015 10:47:10 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: FlipWilson

“Fair or unfair, the NFL should be able to conduct its own investigations and suspend players in the manner it sees fit.”

Not when the NFL has signed a contract saying it CANNOT do those things. Contracts are a part of the law.


44 posted on 09/03/2015 10:48:52 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Impy

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 09/03/2015 10:51:09 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; Perdogg; NFHale

Goodell should be sentenced to life, inflating footballs.


46 posted on 09/03/2015 10:51:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Autonomous User

he just gave it away and now the ball is in the courts hands


I hope that ball is properly inflated.


47 posted on 09/03/2015 10:51:26 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (My hope for America died 11-06-12.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; All

He blows, so why not?


48 posted on 09/03/2015 10:54:07 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

LOL


49 posted on 09/03/2015 11:00:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: GOPsterinMA

I believe he was offered a full time job with Wilson Sporting Goods, inflating new footballs. Yeah, it is blue collar work, but a noble endeavor.


50 posted on 09/03/2015 11:02:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


51 posted on 09/03/2015 11:36:41 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Thought you would like that one : )


52 posted on 09/03/2015 11:40:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I do!!!


53 posted on 09/03/2015 12:17:38 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Mr Rogers; discostu
I understand what your saying and it does have some merit. However, the contracts are with a corporation, which defines the rules the contractees operate under. The rules (of this domain) include process for redress of grievances. It seems a violation of contract for an contractee to use an outside party to change something which is purely defined and owned by the domain.
54 posted on 09/03/2015 12:19:15 PM PDT by veracious
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To: stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA
How about he inflates balloons at kid's parties in next job as "Roggy the Clown"


55 posted on 09/03/2015 12:20:29 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: veracious

“It seems a violation of contract for an contractee to use an outside party”

There are two sides that signed the contract. Why should one of the signers claim all right to interpret the contract?

The player’s union had the right to sue for breach of contract. The judge ruled the contact allowed for fines, but not for suspensions, and requires the NFL to comply with the contract they signed.


56 posted on 09/03/2015 12:22:08 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Impy; GOPsterinMA

Wouldn’t it be nice if somehow this mope read this thread : )


57 posted on 09/03/2015 12:28:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: veracious

It’s not a violation of anything, because in the end that’s a large part of what civil courts are for. A significant percentage of the cases that land in civil court involve 2 sides disagreeing on the meaning and application of a contract. And notice that the ruling was based on both previous legal cases involving the league AND results of their own arbitration and appeals process (Tagliabue’s throwing out of the suspension of players for not complying with the Bounty Gate suspension was specifically sited). He strongly encouraged them to find an agreement multiple times, they failed, so one way or the other he had to rule. The only question at that point is how would he rule.


58 posted on 09/03/2015 12:52:55 PM PDT by discostu (It always comes down to cortexiphan)
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To: Bender2; Impy


59 posted on 09/03/2015 12:53:58 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Mi baol ach dom olcas mise)
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Interesting replies from a couple of folks, which I considered. Those having voluntarily joined the artificial entity (domain) called NFL, one has come under it's jurisdiction. Assuming the domain has rules, processes for judging violations and appeals thereof, then choosing to ignore the ruling of domain seems a breach of contract, disqualifying one from being in the domain.

It seems a dominion such as this is different from a normal business arrangement. In business contracts define work and materials to be exchanged. The NFL exists to play football. The way it is played and the regulation of penalties resulting from play appear to be within it's own jurisdiction.

I do not have any vested interest in this issue other than its legal ramifications.

Thank you for your time. I am now closed to replies on this subject.

60 posted on 09/03/2015 1:59:59 PM PDT by veracious
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